Any C&R Collectors?

[Arik]

Where do you find ammo to shoot those Japanese rifles?

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[RazorBurn]

Where do you find ammo to shoot those Japanese rifles?

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You can buy it here.

https://www.midwayusa.com/77x58mm-ja...a/br?cid=10465

https://www.midwayusa.com/65x50mm-ja...a/br?cid=10463

https://www.grafs.com/catalog/category/categoryId/239

https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog...ategoryId/164?

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https://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rifle...65x50-jap-ammo

https://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rifle...le/77-jap-ammo

Jap rifles are expensive to shoot. I have a all matching Type 99 Short with a scrubbed mum that I've put 20 rounds through. I have another 20 for a rainy day. It was actually a pleasant gun to shoot.

I used to own a Type 44 Calvary Arisaka that I never shot. I didn't want another odd expensive caliber that I couldn't shoot. It also had a crack in the wrist all the way through and I didn't want to wait for who knows how long for an expensive stock to show up. I bought it on the cheap, flipped it, and bought a Norinco M1911A1.

I won't buy any Caracano's because I want to shoot all of my firearms. I just don't want to own anything I can't take to the range.

[sgtrock82]

Where do you find ammo to shoot those Japanese rifles?

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I load it. Thats probably the big draw back to these, is no affordable ammo. The choices are norma, hornady/grafs, and PCI. PCI has a flimsy rep, hornady is expensive but accurate in both 6.5 and 7.7. Norma is outrageously expensive with awesome brass but doesnt shoot as well as hornady.

Its rediculous that Prvi hasnt offered it, they make the brass for both calibers already as well as .264 and .311 projectiles in appropriate weights. The estimates of Arisakas in circulation run about 2.5 million, so numbers are there and prvi loads every just about every other odd military cartridge.

Meh... it keeps prices low, i shouldnt bitch lol

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[sgtrock82]

I won't buy any Caracano's because I want to shoot all of my firearms. I just don't want to own anything I can't take to the range.

Whoa...., why no love for the carcano? It can be shot Prvi loads 6.5 with 123gr and 140gr. I hear the 123gr is more accurate. Ive not seen either sell for more than 18/box, so its not bad for the occasional outting. Prvi has better rim dimensions than norma cases and they actually work well with the clips

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[RazorBurn]

Whoa...., why no love for the carcano? It can be shot Prvi loads 6.5 with 123gr and 140gr. I hear the 123gr is more accurate. Ive not seen either sell for more than 18/box, so its not bad for the occasional outting. Prvi has better rim dimensions than norma cases and they actually work well with the clips

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Is anyone making new manufacture ammo for the Carcano?

I don't reload, and have no desire to either. In my mind I don't shoot enough volume to justify reloading, and quite frankly I've seen enough "kaboom's" to make me wary of making a mistake. I don't have enough time to shoot a lot of volume either, so new and surplus ammo fills my needs nicely.

[sgtrock82]

Is anyone making new manufacture ammo for the Caracano?

I don't reload, and have no desire to either. In my mind I don't shoot enough volume to justify reloading, and quite frankly I've seen enough "kaboom's" to make me wary of making a mistake. I don't have enough time to shoot a lot of volume either, so new and surplus ammo fills my needs nicely.

Prvi partizan currently loads 6.5x52 carcano. Its good ammo.

For 7.35; Norma, PCI and Ive had good luck shooting the italian 1939 surplus that is still findable at gunshows. Occasionally there is a dud, maybe 1 per box of 18. The clips can be expensive so the surplus tends to be pricey. But I sometimes find boxes of the ammo missing the clips for $5-10.

The clips are required to shoot carcano rifles. Single round loading stresses and eventually breaks the extractor. Clips are $3-10 ea.

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[SteyrAUG]

[sundance435]

Where do you find ammo to shoot those Japanese rifles?

7.7 isn't super difficult to find (it is expensive, though). Loaded 6.5 Jap is pretty hard to find.

I load it. Thats probably the big draw back to these, is no affordable ammo. The choices are norma, hornady/grafs, and PCI. PCI has a flimsy rep, hornady is expensive but accurate in both 6.5 and 7.7. Norma is outrageously expensive with awesome brass but doesnt shoot as well as hornady.

Its rediculous that Prvi hasnt offered it, they make the brass for both calibers already as well as .264 and .311 projectiles in appropriate weights. The estimates of Arisakas in circulation run about 2.5 million, so numbers are there and prvi loads every just about every other odd military cartridge.

Meh... it keeps prices low, i shouldnt bitch lol

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I'm surprised Prvi doesn't load it, too, considering the even more oddball calibers that they do. That's the single biggest reason I haven't picked up a nice 38 and 99 - I don't reload. I have been picking up boxes of 7.7 when I see them, mostly Norma, which is usually $30-40 a box anymore. I appreciate your knowledge of Jap guns - that's something I haven't tried to delve into yet. I just want a nice representative 38 and Type 99 and a last ditch 99...in addition to the 10 other things on my list.

Whoa...., why no love for the carcano? It can be shot Prvi loads 6.5 with 123gr and 140gr. I hear the 123gr is more accurate. Ive not seen either sell for more than 18/box, so its not bad for the occasional outting. Prvi has better rim dimensions than norma cases and they actually work well with the clips

Carcanos get shit on a lot by people who don't have experience with them. They're actually pretty good guns - not better than anything else at the time, but not bad. 6.5 Carcano is a pretty crappy round, though. As you said, people seem to have better luck with the 123gr Prvi over the 139, due largely to the varying diameters of Italian barrels; like all things Italian, there's not a lot of consistency there. Most of the barrels I've seen on WWI M91s are in pretty shitty condition, to boot.

Beautiful Arisakas! What are the details on the reddish stocked one? I don't know anything about Jap markings.

[RazorBurn]

Prvi partizan currently loads 6.5x52 carcano. Its good ammo.

For 7.35; Norma, PCI and Ive had good luck shooting the italian 1939 surplus that is still findable at gunshows. Occasionally there is a dud, maybe 1 per box of 18. The clips can be expensive so the surplus tends to be pricey. But I sometimes find boxes of the ammo missing the clips for $5-10.

The clips are required to shoot carcano rifles. Single round loading stresses and eventually breaks the extractor. Clips are $3-10 ea.

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Thanks! I didn't know Prvi was doing the 6.5 Carcano. I've passed on a couple of Finn marked ones because I had it in my head that I could not get ammo for them. Looks like I'll have to add one of those to my pick up list.

[sgtrock82]

Thanks! I didn't know Prvi was doing the 6.5 Carcano. I've passed on a couple of Finn marked ones because I had it in my head that I could not get ammo for them. Looks like I'll have to add one of those to my pick up list.

Sadly that wont work out because all the finnish carcanos are 7.35 short rifles. Hornady/graf may load 7.35, they make both the brass and projectiles, but I havent seen any.

Id grab an example if you think you may want one, they are pretty reasonable and quite plentiful now but forget it if a steady supply of ammo turns up


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