G&R Tactical
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 21

Thread: Dan Wesson Valor or Vigil

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    19
    Feedback Score
    2 (100%)

    Dan Wesson Valor or Vigil

    What say you guys and gals, looking to buy a Dan Wesson 1911, which one of the two I have listed in the title would you buy, and why. Looking at the full size 5 inch 45 ACP models.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    MD
    Posts
    1,300
    Feedback Score
    0
    The Valor is a nicer gun.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Posts
    981
    Feedback Score
    37 (100%)
    Apples to oranges comparison.
    Valor is steel frame (SS), Vigil is alloy.
    Vigil is more “bare bones”/spartan of the two.
    Both have quality “bits”, no MIM in either.

    If you’re looking for a range gun, shoot the hell out of it gun- get the Valor.
    I have both a 5” and Commander length Vigil, they are dedicated “carry” guns and are shot infrequently.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Posts
    2
    Feedback Score
    0
    I have a similar question. OP — I hope this is alright and it’s not a hi-jack, but I feel like a new thread would be too redundant.

    I’m looking into my first 1911. Buy once, cry once... and I want a rail. A Springfield Professional has been on my mind, with a Dan Wesson Specialist a close second. This will be for serious use (as serious as a civilian can get, if you catch my drift). Is the juice worth the squeeze on the Pro? Or will I be served just as well with the Specialist?

    Also, any other 1911 recommendations will be taken into consideration. I’ve looked into Wilson, Les Baer, Ed Brown, etc.. but always back to the Pro or DW Specialist. But that could be due to my lack of experience.

    Thanks in advance and hope I’m not out of line.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Dallas, TX
    Posts
    2,191
    Feedback Score
    2 (100%)
    Valor with duty coat...

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    IL (formely the worst damn state in the nation, but no more. Thank You New York.)
    Posts
    634
    Feedback Score
    2 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by rjacobs View Post
    Valor with duty coat...
    I have the Valor with duty coat, and it is as close as you can get to a perfect 1911 for this cowboy.
    However...
    1). It IS a heavy gun to tote around all day, day after day.
    2). Those Heinie straight 8 night sights are THE worst sights you could put on a high end gun. Every set I have ever seen has been SO dim as to be almost useless! And when you search around for a decent set of replacement night sights, not a lot out there that fit those sight cuts.

    Am considering the Vigil just for the weight reduction. Haven't looked into what sights they come with - or what sight cuts are used. Anyone know?

    geezer john
    jmoore (aka - BoneDaddy)

    "The state that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards, and its fighting by fools." Thucydides

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Posts
    7
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by jmoore View Post
    I have the Valor with duty coat, and it is as close as you can get to a perfect 1911 for this cowboy.
    However...
    1). It IS a heavy gun to tote around all day, day after day.
    2). Those Heinie straight 8 night sights are THE worst sights you could put on a high end gun. Every set I have ever seen has been SO dim as to be almost useless! And when you search around for a decent set of replacement night sights, not a lot out there that fit those sight cuts.

    Am considering the Vigil just for the weight reduction. Haven't looked into what sights they come with - or what sight cuts are used. Anyone know?

    geezer john
    I prefer 2 dot sights and 1 dot sights over 3. HOWEVER, I agree that the Heinie version sucks. What's the point of having 2 dots if the rear one doesn't even get close to the top of the rear sight? On top of that it's tough to see in the daytime AND at night. If their idea was to mimic a 1 dot in the day and 2 dot at night they failed at both. They need a brighter front for the first to happen and better orientation and visibility of the rear at night.



    OK, on topic. I would go with the Valor here out of these two. But, if it were me I'd go V-bob all day. And if weight is a concern I LOVE my DW Guardian.
    Last edited by Lantern; 10-11-18 at 22:59.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    419
    Feedback Score
    1 (100%)
    I love a 5" aluminum framed 1911 for carry. I say Vigil.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Posts
    981
    Feedback Score
    37 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by jmoore View Post
    I have the Valor with duty coat, and it is as close as you can get to a perfect 1911 for this cowboy.
    However...

    ..........................................................................................................................................................................................

    Am considering the Vigil just for the weight reduction. Haven't looked into what sights they come with - or what sight cuts are used. Anyone know?

    geezer john
    Vigil comes with Ledge rear and Trtium FS. The RS is all black, no colored/Tritium inserts.
    Dovetail(s) are Novak.
    IMO these sights are close to ideal on a carry gun. On both of my examples the elevation, with carry ammo was spot on @ 25 yds., drifting rear was necessary on one gun for windage.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    AZ
    Posts
    4,392
    Feedback Score
    6 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by WillieThom View Post
    I have a similar question. OP — I hope this is alright and it’s not a hi-jack, but I feel like a new thread would be too redundant.

    I’m looking into my first 1911. Buy once, cry once... and I want a rail. A Springfield Professional has been on my mind, with a Dan Wesson Specialist a close second. This will be for serious use (as serious as a civilian can get, if you catch my drift). Is the juice worth the squeeze on the Pro? Or will I be served just as well with the Specialist?

    Also, any other 1911 recommendations will be taken into consideration. I’ve looked into Wilson, Les Baer, Ed Brown, etc.. but always back to the Pro or DW Specialist. But that could be due to my lack of experience.

    Thanks in advance and hope I’m not out of line.
    Goto 1911 Addicts forum and into classified and find a $3,000+ 1911 bought and shot 200 rounds "FLAWLESS" like they always say and buy it for $2K ish. Its like buying a car right off the lot for 35% off or whatever. There are guys that buy them , want another , have money and do this craziness. I see it all the time.

    PB
    "Air Force / Policeman / Fireman / Man of God / Friend of mine / R.I.P. Steve Lamy"

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •