Winchester White Box 9mm 124g NATO

**HKGuns** · 10-13-18, 08:00

I buy that regularly and it is really good.

**Street Dog** · 10-13-18, 09:48

My go to practice and training ammo. Good to go.

**Uni-Vibe** · 10-13-18, 12:34

Only drawback is that the primer are crimped and the crimp must be reamed or swaged out before reloading.

I have a primer pocket swager but I don't bother with these cases because I already have piles of nine that don't have the crimp. I just decap 'em and put 'em in the scrap bucket.

But again, I depend on Q4318 to stay alive in the big city. Good stuff.

**556BlackRifle** · 10-13-18, 17:45

I love 9mm NATO. It's always worked for me and it's my favorite range round. I buy it whenever I can.

**CPM** · 10-15-18, 06:48

0 issues through a couple thousand rounds, almost all in competition, winning several. I do not notice any difference in recoil, but I am 6’4” and 285lbs, with XL hands.

**Uni-Vibe** · 10-15-18, 13:06

Originally Posted by CPM

0 issues through a couple thousand rounds, almost all in competition, winning several. I do not notice any difference in recoil, but I am 6’4” and 285lbs, with XL hands.

I'm 5'10" 180 pounds, with at least XL hands, more likely XXL. Q4318 recoil is just a tad snappier than SAAMI spec feels like. It's confidence-inspiring, but won't slow your shooting down.

**Pi3** · 10-16-18, 16:46

[QUOTE=Uni-Vibe;2666722]Only drawback is that the primer are crimped and the crimp must be reamed or swaged out before reloading.

I have a primer pocket swager but I don't bother with these cases because I already have piles of nine that don't have the crimp. I just decap 'em and put 'em in the scrap bucket

How does this compare to the MEN 124 gr nato?

**nightchief** · 10-16-18, 17:03

Originally Posted by Pi3

How does this compare to the MEN 124 gr nato?

I believe the Winchester is "hotter" as in its American Nato spec which is similar in pressure to +P ammo. The MEN is European Nato Spec, which is a lower pressure, though not as low as say Blazer 115gr. I have shot quite a bit of the MEN 124gr Nato, including through a comp'd G19 and it runs ok. Blazer, as a comparison would cause failures to eject (stovepipes) and failures to feed. The MEN is very good ammo IMO.

**Uni-Vibe** · 10-16-18, 17:18

[QUOTE=Pi3;2667680]

Originally Posted by Uni-Vibe

Only drawback is that the primer are crimped and the crimp must be reamed or swaged out before reloading.

I have a primer pocket swager but I don't bother with these cases because I already have piles of nine that don't have the crimp. I just decap 'em and put 'em in the scrap bucket

How does this compare to the MEN 124 gr nato?

The MEN cases I've seen are not crimped.