Amnesty, Gun Control, Top the Agenda if Dems Win Back the House

[duece71]

Socialists see themselves as revolutionaries. Once they get into power, they don’t see a need for anymore private ownership of guns or even elections. Every election from now on, whether mid term, or POTUS should be seen as potentially changing our society for the future and taken very seriously.

[OH58D]

Point #2. They had their man in the White House for 8 years and accomplished NOTHING in regards to gun control. The country simply doesn't want gun control. Its a losing platform and always has been. A large percentage of Dem voters don't want it, and they are truly in conflict about who to vote for because of it. More and more of them are seeing through the deception.

The democrat party is in rapid transformation mode. They're uncloaking themselves and making their appeal to the young generation who wouldn't be appalled if the party logo was a hammer & sickle and they all referred to themselves as comrades. These young ones have no perspective on anything. They are the future ruin of the United States.

The old generation democrat was the product of the 1960's generation and they were so screwed up they didn't realize their buffoonery cleared the path and paved the way for the Progressive Marxist takeover of the party. Dumb asses every one of them.

[BH321]

*These views are my own and do not represent the DOD or any other government agency*

The liberal youth are a direct result of the failings of the Boomers. They bankrupted this country and still expect millennials to cowtow to them and thank them for being born into this disaster that they created. They say Millenials are entitled because they are requesting college debt relief and higher wages (college being 1076% more expensive than in 1978); adjusted for inflation this generation makes only two-thirds to one-half what your average Boomer made at the same point in their career. If any generation voted themselves mass handouts it was the boomers in the form unsustainable tax cuts, the destruction of the environment, and unrestrained war that has lasted for over three decades. I have airmen that flew combat missions in Afghanistan that were toddlers when that war started!

The Millennials, and to a lesser degree Gen X are completely screwed and I don’t blame the younger cohorts of Gen X and most of the Millenials for the direction they want to take this country based on their own personal circumstances. The only reason I am not with them going full Bernie 2020 is due to my conservative beliefs on abortion and firearms rights.

*These views are my own and do not represent the DOD or any other government agency*

[The_War_Wagon]

Molon labe, baby.

[PatrioticDisorder]

*These views are my own and do not represent the DOD or any other government agency*

The liberal youth are a direct result of the failings of the Boomers. They bankrupted this country and still expect millennials to cowtow to them and thank them for being born into this disaster that they created. They say Millenials are entitled because they are requesting college debt relief and higher wages (college being 1076% more expensive than in 1978); adjusted for inflation this generation makes only two-thirds to one-half what your average Boomer made at the same point in their career. If any generation voted themselves mass handouts it was the boomers in the form unsustainable tax cuts, the destruction of the environment, and unrestrained war that has lasted for over three decades. I have airmen that flew combat missions in Afghanistan that were toddlers when that war started!

The Millennials, and to a lesser degree Gen X are completely screwed and I don’t blame the younger cohorts of Gen X and most of the Millenials for the direction they want to take this country based on their own personal circumstances. The only reason I am not with them going full Bernie 2020 is due to my conservative beliefs on abortion and firearms rights.

*These views are my own and do not represent the DOD or any other government agency*

“Unsustainable tax cuts”? Kick rocks with that nonsense, I pay almost six figures in taxes every year and I can assure you I am not “rich”. Woodrow Wilson & FDR really helped set the table for what we are experiencing but it was LBJs so called “Great Society” that really got us going down the rabbit hole. It is irresponsible spending that is the problem and the bulk of that is in social programs which the FEDERAL government has no business in. This is, as another poster mentioned the Cloward-Piven strategy, Obama’s presidency was 100% Cloward-Piven, this is how they think they will turn the USA into a socialist utopia. My wife is from Cuba, we know how well socialism works there, in Venezuela and in the USSR. The left may one day get their way here and turn this into Cuba, it will happen over my dead body, I will not be a part of that dystopia.

To want to double down on reckless spending, which is what got us here is mind blowing and that is exactly what Bernie wants. I realize not everyone loves Trump for whatever reason, but he is the last hope we have left. If you weren’t paying attention, he has called for 5% spending cuts, that is a start. He has been delivering on just about everything so far, if R’s hold the house and senate, I have no doubt he will deliver on this as well (maybe he doesn’t get everything he asked for, but it will represents a course correction and hopefully it is not too late).

[ABNAK]

*These views are my own and do not represent the DOD or any other government agency*

The liberal youth are a direct result of the failings of the Boomers. They bankrupted this country and still expect millennials to cowtow to them and thank them for being born into this disaster that they created. They say Millenials are entitled because they are requesting college debt relief and higher wages (college being 1076% more expensive than in 1978); adjusted for inflation this generation makes only two-thirds to one-half what your average Boomer made at the same point in their career. If any generation voted themselves mass handouts it was the boomers in the form unsustainable tax cuts, the destruction of the environment, and unrestrained war that has lasted for over three decades. I have airmen that flew combat missions in Afghanistan that were toddlers when that war started!

The Millennials, and to a lesser degree Gen X are completely screwed and I don’t blame the younger cohorts of Gen X and most of the Millenials for the direction they want to take this country based on their own personal circumstances. The only reason I am not with them going full Bernie 2020 is due to my conservative beliefs on abortion and firearms rights.

*These views are my own and do not represent the DOD or any other government agency*

Uh huh. Your conservative views on firearms are about the ONLY thing in that diatribe that I agree with (don't disagree on abortion, it just isn't a make-or-break for me).

So you're basically a Liberal who is pro-gun and pro-life. Okay I guess, but jeez.....

Also, might wanna bone up on your math. ".....unrestrained war that has lasted for over three decades." ????? That takes us back to 1988. So we've been in endless war since 1988? Riiiight.

[grnamin]

[BH321]

“Unsustainable tax cuts”? Kick rocks with that nonsense, I pay almost six figures in taxes every year and I can assure you I am not “rich”. Woodrow Wilson & FDR really helped set the table for what we are experiencing but it was LBJs so called “Great Society” that really got us going down the rabbit hole. It is irresponsible spending that is the problem and the bulk of that is in social programs which the FEDERAL government has no business in. This is, as another poster mentioned the Cloward-Piven strategy, Obama’s presidency was 100% Cloward-Piven, this is how they think they will turn the USA into a socialist utopia. My wife is from Cuba, we know how well socialism works there, in Venezuela and in the USSR. The left may one day get their way here and turn this into Cuba, it will happen over my dead body, I will not be a part of that dystopia.

To want to double down on reckless spending, which is what got us here is mind blowing and that is exactly what Bernie wants. I realize not everyone loves Trump for whatever reason, but he is the last hope we have left. If you weren’t paying attention, he has called for 5% spending cuts, that is a start. He has been delivering on just about everything so far, if R’s hold the house and senate, I have no doubt he will deliver on this as well (maybe he doesn’t get everything he asked for, but it will represents a course correction and hopefully it is not too late).

Our infrastructure is collapsing in a good part of the country, education is abhorrent, we are rolling back EPA protections which include both clean water to clean air, and you’d better hope you don’t get cancer because if you do it will bankrupt you. While not all of those are social programs, two of the most important ones are. If we do not invest now in our future domestically, we are not going to be able to continue succeeding in the future. If we continue to shortchange these programs, we are going to all suffer. Health Care is a right, education is a right, clean air and water are rights, and should be valued alongside the rights that I think all members of this forum support; the right to bear arms, and the right to free speech.

Also, yes the tax cuts are unsustainable and are expected to add over 1 trillion to the deficit. Additionally, if we are going to consider corporations as people for the interest of free speech and campaign contributions, we should consider them the same as people for taxation and attach the corporate tax rate to the equivalent individual bracket.

Uh huh. Your conservative views on firearms are about the ONLY thing in that diatribe that I agree with (don't disagree on abortion, it just isn't a make-or-break for me).

So you're basically a Liberal who is pro-gun and pro-life. Okay I guess, but jeez.....

Also, might wanna bone up on your math. ".....unrestrained war that has lasted for over three decades." ????? That takes us back to 1988. So we've been in endless war since 1988? Riiiight.

I was starting the timeline with Grenada in ‘83 which given how short and inconsequential that was, I will roll it forward to ‘90 with Desert Shield which still represents 28 years of conflict. And yes that is an accurate descriptor for me, a liberal who likes guns and is prolife.

[MEME IMAGE]

My degree is in accounting, my loans are paid off, and I am living quite comfortably thank you. It would however have helped the majority of Americans just starting out, if we would actually have raised the minimum wage to keep up with inflation. If we did it would be somewhere between $10 and $14 dollars an hour right now depending on the state. Additionally, the median wage for the middle class in real dollars has not gone up since ‘78 while the cost of living has quite substantially.

*These views are my own and do not represent the DOD or any other government agency*

[rjacobs]

Our infrastructure is collapsing in a good part of the country, education is abhorrent, we are rolling back EPA protections which include both clean water to clean air, and you’d better hope you don’t get cancer because if you do it will bankrupt you. While not all of those are social programs, two of the most important ones are. If we do not invest now in our future domestically, we are not going to be able to continue succeeding in the future. If we continue to shortchange these programs, we are going to all suffer. Health Care is a right, education is a right, clean air and water are rights, and should be valued alongside the rights that I think all members of this forum support; the right to bear arms, and the right to free speech.

Also, yes the tax cuts are unsustainable and are expected to add over 1 trillion to the deficit. Additionally, if we are going to consider corporations as people for the interest of free speech and campaign contributions, we should consider them the same as people for taxation and attach the corporate tax rate to the equivalent individual bracket.

Our infrastructure is not good, I will agree with you on that. Want to know why? Because tax money is being funneled away from infrastructure to social services. Ever look at one of your property tax or vehicle tax bills? 90% of that goes to schools. 5% goes to Police, Fire and EMS. The remaining 5% goes to city and road infrastructure, maybe. Ex...when I live in Missouri I didnt own a house so I only payed tax on my 2 cars, roughly 500-600 a year. Out of that $7 went to the road system, like 30 bucks to police, fire and EMS and the rest went to the schools. And im not even starting in on what the 6% Missouri income tax paid for. WTF... Where I live now in Texas, I pay about $6000 a year in taxes on my house, zero on cars, no income tax and I believe the % are probably roughly the same as to where the money goes. I have no children in school, so I am not a "user" but I am a "payer"..whatever, im over that. BUT I want more of my money going towards road improvements and what not. The city I live in has had 2 bond issues to build new city facilities for public use(parks and what not), they FAILED miserably, because the residents dont see the existing money being used appropriately. None of my city tax's even go to the water system, thats paid for separately out of my water bill...which is outrageous to begin with(my city has one of the highest water bills in the DFW metroplex). Our country as a whole funnels so much money into "social programs" and im not talking SS here either. I get that "some" people need a helping hand, but the shit is out of control and this is yet another area that nobody wants to have a serious conversation, it just turns into partisan bickering.

Education is abhorrent for a lot of reasons and one big one is a lot of parents refuse to work with their kids at home. Some because they dont want to/dont have the time, and others because they dont have the education themselves to help. There are LOTS of free programs for tutoring. I wont even talk about the teaching force thats out there today... Its funny that in private schools in this country there doesnt seem to be much of an issue with students failing, and guess why that is? Because the parents have a VESTED reason to help their kids...that reason is they spend large sums of money to send their kids there...this is ON TOP of their already ridiculous tax burdens where high percentage goes to the public schools.

The EPA clean water and air stuff was getting a little out of whack. I dont disagree with a lot of what they are doing, but it was strangling the ability for people to build and do other things. I could go into story upon story that my buddy who runs heavy equipment has about EPA stuff in them trying to do projects. Stuff that required them to do weeks of extra work and require 10s of thousands in extra material to do something that, while they didnt disagree with doing, but they could have done in an equally safe way(as far as the environment was concerned), and would take a day or two and not require any extra materials. I also think back to the guy in the PNW that was indicted for clean water violation because he was catching rain water from his own gutters... Or farmers who couldnt touch their fields because the EPA deemed storm water run off into "navigable waterways"... i.e. a 1' wide creek that was 6" deep, was deemed "navigable"...

Healthcare was not "fixed" by the Democrats with Obamacare... they simply said "everybody has insurance".... Well the doctors and hospitals then jacked prices up because "who cares, everybody has insurance".... and then the circle jerk started. While drug companies are out of control, I dont really want to see the government step in and limit prices because then the drug companies will just go "**** it, we cant make money, we arent going to develop a single new product"...and our health care quality then drops.

I think you need to read the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. I dont see in there that health care is a right... education is a right... clean air and water are rights... You find me the parts of the Bill of Rights or the Constitution that say that... I want specific references...

The tax cuts are only unsustainable because spending is out of ****ing control... And BOTH sides are to blame. As was already said TAXES arent the problem. PLENTY of tax money coming in. I would guess 10-15% of the tax money is used responsibly... the other 85-90% has HUGE amounts of waste in it. Dont even get me started on the Social Security trust fund which is so insolvent there is no bringing it back because the SS money is skimmed into the general fund and used for other shit, while we fill a hole 10x the size of the Grand Canyon with IOU's...

[grnamin]

Healthcare is not a right. I can't explain it any better than Ben Shapiro can...


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