Decorated Vietnam Veteran, POW Sentenced To 7+ Years For ‘Mistake’ Made Decades Ago

[C-grunt]

So in review, we live in a nation where a guy who stole a firearm while in the military is getting hemmed up forty years later for possession of a machine gun not the actual theft itself and he is facing prison time for said machine gun possession and NOT sexually assaulting his own child and making kiddy porn of her . . .

Yup that's justice.

You'd have a hard time finding evidence that he stole the rifle 40 years ago, but you have all the evidence you need to prove he possessed it. Also, delayed sexual assault allegations are very hard to prove. Did they actually find the child porn?

[Moose-Knuckle]

So here is your first fatal flaw. Strictly define pedophilia so that we aren't sending 18 year olds to death row for having a 16 year old girlfriend. I completely understand where you are going and would have zero problem throwing the switch on guys in their 20s and above who are having sex with 12 year olds, consensual or not but defining that age gap will always be problematic.

You will always have somebody going to death row because they were born in Jan rather than Dec and that can be hard to reconcile. This is why things are supposed to be left up to judges and juries, problem is lately judges and juries are operating under a truly bizarre mindset that seems to be founded in "geeze...that could be me up there one day."

The other problem is just as we can pretty decidedly see that guys in their 20s and above having sex with 12 year olds is clearly wrong and a mental disorder that can probably never be truly fixed for that individual, there are literally millions of people who view gun owners in nearly exactly the same light and they will trot out some mental gibberish such as "at least victims of pedophilia get to live" or some similar nonsense.

And finally humans seem to have a fundamental flaw recognizing right and wrong so they fall back on legal and not legal. So while the Japanese have no problem handing out life sentences for firearm possession they see nothing wrong with playing with machine guns while on vacation in the US. By the same token while we are generally horrified by child molesters there are still people who will apply "when in Rome" to "when in Bangkok" and will see having sex with children as suddenly ok because rules are different there.

All that is because we have lost our way as a nation. Common sense takes care of all the above. I know, I know . . . we're talking about human beings here which the vast majority of them are completely ****ing stupid.

But in this case if the MG was not prohibited then what would his charge be? And if was taken out back of the courthouse after his daughter's molestation trial and hung until dead then we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

You'd have a hard time finding evidence that he stole the rifle 40 years ago, but you have all the evidence you need to prove he possessed it. Also, delayed sexual assault allegations are very hard to prove. Did they actually find the child porn?

Part of prosecuting someone is establishing a case against them, how . . . when . . . who, etc. How did he acquire said MG, any witnesses, etc. As for the child sexual assault and porn I have no idea. Point is a guy is going away for an MG that has never been used in a crime and he skates on raping his daughter. That is FUBAR, WWTFFD (what would the Founding Fathers do?).

[Iraqgunz]

Knock off the shit or see yourself out of this thread. It's apparent you are stirring the shit pot with great fervor.

Stock definition of many.

Seen members of those groups claiming to be 2nd Amendment supporters...and some seem genuine....but at the end of the day I don't see antigunners throwing up their hands and going home due to not getting their agenda executed.

Determined about what exactly? Opposition to anti gun laws and the infrastructure that increases them?

[SteyrAUG]

All that is because we have lost our way as a nation. Common sense takes care of all the above. I know, I know . . . we're talking about human beings here which the vast majority of them are completely ****ing stupid.

If we could effectively apply common sense in the courts, never mind the complications of defining what constitutes common sense specifically, we wouldn't have most of our problems.

The problems are that we tolerate extremes, but if you get rid of the extremes, then off center moderates become the new extremists.