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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post
    Then he should have been charged with that.

    Same goes with the alleged sexual assault and threats.
    He was charged with that, then lucky for him, during the plea deal negotiation he got the really big stuff tossed and pled to much less severe crimes. I think that is the important part you are missing.

    Also if you go back a few pages, I already noted that the daughters allegations were just that and might be BS. Of course they could be very real and we'll probably never know. Obviously there was enough real stuff that he took the plea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    It was almost exactly one year ago.
    Oh ok, the M14 came up about 1 year ago. So you are meaning state charges for the firearms possession.

    I was referring to the 2014 threatening incidents mentioned in the article as not being the main concern. Add in the sexual assaults on the daughter, but not sure when those were happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post
    Oh ok, the M14 came up about 1 year ago. So you are meaning state charges for the firearms possession.
    No I am meaning the threats against healthcare workers, criminal trespass, threats to the judge, threats to the ATF, possession of cocaine, possession of MJ, possession of a stolen gun and possession of a gun with obliterated SN. All of that was about 1 year ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    No I am meaning the threats against healthcare workers, criminal trespass, threats to the judge, threats to the ATF, possession of cocaine, possession of MJ, possession of a stolen gun and possession of a gun with obliterated SN. All of that was about 1 year ago.
    You never know.

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    So in review, we live in a nation where a guy who stole a firearm while in the military is getting hemmed up forty years later for possession of a machine gun not the actual theft itself and he is facing prison time for said machine gun possession and NOT sexually assaulting his own child and making kiddy porn of her . . .

    Yup that's justice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    So in review, we live in a nation where a guy who stole a firearm while in the military is getting hemmed up forty years later for possession of a machine gun not the actual theft itself and he is facing prison time for said machine gun possession and NOT sexually assaulting his own child and making kiddy porn of her . . .

    Yup that's justice.
    That's because we have a legal system rather than a system of justice. And as dissatisfying as it is, it would probably be hard to dramatically improve it. If we tried to implement a true "system of justice" it would likely be a complete disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    That's because we have a legal system rather than a system of justice. And as dissatisfying as it is, it would probably be hard to dramatically improve it. If we tried to implement a true "system of justice" it would likely be a complete disaster.
    Repeal the NFA and capital punishment for pedophiles would be one hell of a start though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    Repeal the NFA and capital punishment for pedophiles would be one hell of a start though.
    ^^^ Absolutely. Although I honestly believe there are those on the Left, along with all their Hollyweird supporters, who would like to legalize pedophilia. They've already legitimized plenty of other deviant behavior to the point where you are called a bigot and a homophobe if you do not actively support such behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flenna View Post
    Although I honestly believe there are those on the Left, along with all their Hollyweird supporters, who would like to legalize pedophilia. They've already legitimized plenty of other deviant behavior to the point where you are called a bigot and a homophobe if you do not actively support such behavior.
    Absolutely this is part of the agenda, well that and zoophilia. Pedosexual is merely another "orientation" and thus pedophiles are misunderstood victims of Western Civilization and the Judeo-Christian patriarchy. . . blah-blah-blah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    Repeal the NFA and capital punishment for pedophiles would be one hell of a start though.
    So here is your first fatal flaw. Strictly define pedophilia so that we aren't sending 18 year olds to death row for having a 16 year old girlfriend. I completely understand where you are going and would have zero problem throwing the switch on guys in their 20s and above who are having sex with 12 year olds, consensual or not but defining that age gap will always be problematic.

    You will always have somebody going to death row because they were born in Jan rather than Dec and that can be hard to reconcile. This is why things are supposed to be left up to judges and juries, problem is lately judges and juries are operating under a truly bizarre mindset that seems to be founded in "geeze...that could be me up there one day."

    The other problem is just as we can pretty decidedly see that guys in their 20s and above having sex with 12 year olds is clearly wrong and a mental disorder that can probably never be truly fixed for that individual, there are literally millions of people who view gun owners in nearly exactly the same light and they will trot out some mental gibberish such as "at least victims of pedophilia get to live" or some similar nonsense.

    And finally humans seem to have a fundamental flaw recognizing right and wrong so they fall back on legal and not legal. So while the Japanese have no problem handing out life sentences for firearm possession they see nothing wrong with playing with machine guns while on vacation in the US. By the same token while we are generally horrified by child molesters there are still people who will apply "when in Rome" to "when in Bangkok" and will see having sex with children as suddenly ok because rules are different there.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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