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    Would you feel under-gunned using Federal 9BPLE?

    Curious to see the thoughts of you guys. It's an old-school cup-and-core JHP. There have been significant advancements in bullet construction with regard to terminal ballistics in the decades since 9BPLE's introduction, but it still has a following. In other words it's still not a bad choice. Although it is a +P+ round, I've never seen it's velocities chrono'd by someone above the low 1200's; a "true" (if you will) +P+ 9mm 115gr should hit the 1300's. Nonetheless, this round has a pretty good track record.

    For the record, my load of choice is the HST 147gr +P. I do, however, have a few new(er) production boxes of 9BPLE on hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    Curious to see the thoughts of you guys. It's an old-school cup-and-core JHP. There have been significant advancements in bullet construction with regard to terminal ballistics in the decades since 9BPLE's introduction, but it still has a following. In other words it's still not a bad choice. Although it is a +P+ round, I've never seen it's velocities chrono'd by someone above the low 1200's; a "true" (if you will) +P+ 9mm 115gr should hit the 1300's. Nonetheless, this round has a pretty good track record.

    For the record, my load of choice is the HST 147gr +P. I do, however, have a few new(er) production boxes of 9BPLE on hand.
    I would disagree. I think it is a bad choice. It may not have been bad 20 years ago but it is now. If it was that or ball as your only option, then sure I guess. That's probably not the case though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggammell View Post
    I would disagree. I think it is a bad choice. It may not have been bad 20 years ago but it is now. If it was that or ball as your only option, then sure I guess. That's probably not the case though.

    I've always wondered about this. Have thugs gotten that much tougher in 20 years? Maybe natural selection works at hyperspeed on the streets of the Big City.

    For the record, I carry Q4318 and don't feel a bit under-gunned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggammell View Post
    I would disagree. I think it is a bad choice. It may not have been bad 20 years ago but it is now. If it was that or ball as your only option, then sure I guess. That's probably not the case though.
    It is a 115gr bullet, so "light" for caliber. From literature I've seen it mushrooms pretty well but does shed fragments, so penetration is not what some consider optimal. I would recommend, if using it, a 4" barrel as it does not make the usual 1300+fps of other +P+ 115gr loads (i.e. if carrying this load I would not use a anything less size-wise than a Glock 19 for that reason).
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    9BPLE is functional, but there are much better options available these days. No reason to deliberately choose it, but there are worse choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ST911 View Post
    9BPLE is functional, but there are much better options available these days. No reason to deliberately choose it, but there are worse choices.
    Pretty much where I'm at.
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    Undergunned? No, but its a bad choice. Poor, inconsistent penetration, fragments through autoglass.
    Last edited by MegademiC; 10-29-18 at 18:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    Pretty much where I'm at.
    This is what my department issued for our subguns years ago and I carried it in my BUG, too. Today I would not feel undergunned with the 9BPLE in my pistol but it wouldn't be my first choice either.
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    It probably has a higher chance of failing to retain weight or penetrate well but it beats a .22LR or a sharp stick.


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    I put together a stash of a few thousand 9mm 115gr +p & +p+ years ago, and I haven't felt compelled to switch. Are there better choices today? Absolutely yes. Do I feel undergunned with my stash? Absolutely not. But I'm not too picky about ammo these days, I think shot placement is far & away the biggest factor regarding "stopping power" (WTF that really means IDK) that I have control over.

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