Video surfaces with Hughes/86 ban procedure in committee

[mos2111]

Link to the youtube video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Mx2UcSEvQ
Video shows that Roberts Rules were violated without consent and the Hughes Amendment was illegally adopted.
Congress at work I guess.
Until now this record (heavily edited )has been the only reference to that controversial meeting.
http://www.iwilldefendtheconstitutio...Transcript.pdf

[qcfmike]

It's amazing...25 years later and all the same faces and still nothing getting done. I hope for the sake of this country that we all wake up and get things moving in the right direction before it's too late.

[Belmont31R]

Yeah that amendment was not passed out of committee but Rangel had the clerk add it as being passed by a voice vote ignoring the calls for a recorded vote.



Unfortunately the house passed it in the final voting of the bill even though it was illegally added to that final bill.



Amazing but not surprising.....

[chrisva]

I'm always amazed how the rules only apply to us, no wonder they think we're morons we keep voting them in office.
chris

[HermanSnerd]

There are several gun boards buzzing about this right now.

We all need to spread the word about this travesty on all of the
internet forums and blogs we visit, and write our congressmen.

[SteyrAUG]

Yeah, I think this guy on Uzi Forums is the one who took the trouble to obtain and upload the video.

http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/showth...t=57177&page=2

[outrider627]

Yeah that amendment was not passed out of committee but Rangel had the clerk add it as being passed by a voice vote ignoring the calls for a recorded vote.



Unfortunately the house passed it in the final voting of the bill even though it was illegally added to that final bill.



Amazing but not surprising.....

I'm no expert on how Congress does things, but voice votes are the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard of. Does every member of Congress have super-hearing powers where they can count how many voices are speaking at once? This video pisses me off.

[Belmont31R]

I'm no expert on how Congress does things, but voice votes are the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard of. Does every member of Congress have super-hearing powers where they can count how many voices are speaking at once? This video pisses me off.

Yeah they are scumbags....here is a good of Jack Murtha doing it too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywgUCdefSW8

[Iraqgunz]

So assuming that this is legit what exactly can be done? Can the Machine Gun ban be found unconstitutional? Does anyone think that there are enough politicians with a spine who will do the right thing?

[Belmont31R]

So assuming that this is legit what exactly can be done? Can the Machine Gun ban be found unconstitutional? Does anyone think that there are enough politicians with a spine who will do the right thing?

The Courts will not take on a case dealing with internal Congressional matters like this, and since the final bill was voted on, passed by both houses, and signed by Reagan its a valid law.


The courts could rule machine guns as being 2A protected but using this video/incident in court won't do squat.


Right now there is no way a repeal would make it through Congress, and given the mood right now it would be even dumber to try anything except in the courts.