Update to the Green Beret murdered in Mali story

[TexHill]

Two Navy SEALs and twi Marine Raiders have been charged with murder, conspiracy, and burglary among other charges. Story here: https://www.military.com/daily-news/...eret-mali.html

[donlapalma]

Maybe I was reading too fast, but what was the motive? Known at this point?

[flenna]

Maybe I was reading too fast, but what was the motive? Known at this point?

It doesn't really say but sounds like a hazing incident gone too far.

[WillBrink]

It doesn't really say but sounds like a hazing incident gone too far.

Since when do SEALs and Marine Raiders haze a GB for chits? Has to be more to it.

[TexHill]

Since when do SEALs and Marine Raiders haze a GB for chits? Has to be more to it.

When the story first broke last year it was stated that the Green Beret had discovered that members of the SEAL team and Marine Raiders that were assigned to the joint task force were stealing money from a discretionary fund that was supposed to be used to pay local leaders and informants. They then attempted to buy him off, but when he turned them down they murdered him.

[WillBrink]

When the story first broke last year it was stated that the Green Beret had discovered that members of the SEAL team and Marine Raiders that were assigned to the joint task force were stealing money from a discretionary fund that was supposed to be used to pay local leaders and informants. They then attempted to buy him off, but when he turned them down they murdered him.

I suspect we will never know the full story.

[ALCOAR]

Maybe I was reading too fast, but what was the motive? Known at this point?

"retaliation for a perceived offense at a party." according to the article. It also mentions something about hazing, which sounds like it to could be a likely motive. The burglary charge sounds like it's the result of breaking into the Green Beret's room.

[bad aim]

When this story first broke, allegedly the SEALs were skimming money off operational funds...but was found out and confronted by this Green Beret.

May he RIP.

[ABNAK]

For Chrissakes, guys at this level involved with "hazing"? That's something you expect to see with high school football players giving the newbies "pink bellies" or other such bullshit.

Between the MARSOC and DEVGRU guys there were three E-7's and one E-6. Inexcusable behavior from "professional" tip-of-the-spear types if true. They got "dissed" at a party? Seriously? Is this the freaking 'hood?

[BoringGuy45]

For Chrissakes, guys at this level involved with "hazing"? That's something you expect to see with high school football players giving the newbies "pink bellies" or other such bullshit.

Unfortunately, that mentality often never goes away when it comes to groups that attract overly competitive, hypermasculine, narcissistic, ultra Type-A guys, such as the military, law enforcement, corrections, sports teams, fraternities, martial arts, motorcycle clubs, etc. I'm not saying these groups are made up of nothing but the above described douchebag; just that it attracts a lot of those types. In their minds, might makes right, and nothing else in life beyond that is really important. You learn that as a kid: The biggest, strongest, and meanest kid gets his way, and the only way to beat him is to get stronger and meaner. As such, juvenile behavior is still common among grown men who still subscribe to this philosophy.

When it comes to meatheads like this, I hate to say it, but there's often little to no difference between one of them in an elite military unit, and one of them in an organized crime syndicate. They have the same mentality: They have no respect for anyone outside their group. They have a particular hatred for any rookies, prospects, or wannabes who have the nerve to try and join their group until the newbie proves himself...and that day may never come. Also, while they are a brotherhood, there's always an underlying dog-eat-dog mentality. They're all vying to be the top guy in the group, they have no real compunction about knocking off the current top dogs to get where they want, and their unity is really only shared against outsiders. And the biggest thing of all, ratting is an unforgivable sin in such groups. Ratting is worse than anything you could possibly rat about. Treason is a capital crime.

Again, I'm not saying that all the guys in ST-6 or other elite units are like that. But the ones that are like that are truly pieces of shit.