Broward Sheriff's Captain Jan Jordan resigns over Parkland response

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Here is the report.http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5c11bf92...GInMCvhAEN.pdf

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[gaijin]

We've reached a sad point when it requires a "commission" to arrive at those conclusions.

[flenna]

But I thought they said it was the NRAs fault?

[Grand58742]

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...212-story.html

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That dude needs to be flogged.

[platoonDaddy]

We talked about this before in other threads, now that a federal judge in Florida ruled that LE and schools have no duty to protect students, this will likely carry over to the rest of us. It trashes the concept of just call the Police and they will protect you (where seconds count etc.). It is up to us to take responsibility in our own protection, even though states diminish our ability to do so.

A Florida lawyer representing 15 Marjory Stoneman Douglas High students says he is "exploring all of our options" after a federal judge ruled that law enforcement and school officials had no legal duty to protect students during a Valentine's Day rampage at the school that left 17 people dead.

https://ux.freep.com/story/news/nati...ds/2360683002/

[WillBrink]

Figured I'd bump vs start a new one. I honestly thought engaging an active shooter immediately vs wait for the cavalry was SOP for every major and minor PD since Columbine. I do appreciate and respect the fact it appears there's no support for that SRO by other LEOs who could have closed ranks, it's very obvious the fail started from the top down on this. The most quotable law man alive today, per usual, didn't pull any punches:

“I’ve been involved in writing policy probably 35 years, and we agree that Scot Peterson’s response was egregious, outrageous, unacceptable,” commission member Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd told the Miami Herald. “But words matter, and according to [the] policy, he didn’t have to go in.”

Broward Sheriff Now Requires Deputies To Intervene When Kids Are Being Murdered

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[glocktogo]

Figured I'd bump vs start a new one. I honestly thought engaging an active shooter immediately vs wait for the cavalry was SOP for every major and minor PD since Columbine. I do appreciate and respect the fact it appears there's no support for that SRO by other LEOs who could have closed ranks, it's very obvious the fail started from the top down on this. The most quotable law man alive today, per usual, didn't pull any punches:

“I’ve been involved in writing policy probably 35 years, and we agree that Scot Peterson’s response was egregious, outrageous, unacceptable,” commission member Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd told the Miami Herald. “But words matter, and according to [the] policy, he didn’t have to go in.”

Broward Sheriff Now Requires Deputies To Intervene When Kids Are Being Murdered

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It doesn't matter. It's empty, meaningless pandering. It changes nothing.

Are SRO Peterson and "Sheriff" Israel national disgraces and stains on the entire profession? Indisputably. The bigger disgrace is that they have authority without responsibility. So long as governments challenge righteous claims against them and courts side with them as they did in this case, nothing will change.

A brave man will enter the fray regardless of policy. A coward will fall back regardless of policy. Cretins like Israel will continue to defend their bureaucratic fiefdoms regardless of how incompetent and untrustworthy they are. The lessons will be forgotten. Wash, rinse, repeat.

[WillBrink]

It doesn't matter. It's empty, meaningless pandering. It changes nothing.

Are SRO Peterson and "Sheriff" Israel national disgraces and stains on the entire profession? Indisputably. The bigger disgrace is that they have authority without responsibility. So long as governments challenge righteous claims against them and courts side with them as they did in this case, nothing will change.

A brave man will enter the fray regardless of policy. A coward will fall back regardless of policy. Cretins like Israel will continue to defend their bureaucratic fiefdoms regardless of how incompetent and untrustworthy they are. The lessons will be forgotten. Wash, rinse, repeat.

I aint claiming it will change anything. It will apparently change SOP for that PD, but as you said, a person will step up at the time or they will not. I'm beyond disgusted and disheartened by it all, and still blown away one of the largest sheriff PDs in the nation had such lingo in their active shooter policy.

[glocktogo]

I aint claiming it will change anything. It will apparently change SOP for that PD, but as you said, a person will step up at the time or they will not. I'm beyond disgusted and disheartened by it all, and still blown away one of the largest sheriff PDs in the nation had such lingo in their active shooter policy.

Notice it was Israel that had the language changed to “may”, yet he had an underling sign the change back to “shall”.

Authority without responsibility. That's exactly what the problem is.

[sgtrock82]

The only SOP I see here is "Run! Hide! Let the lawyers and judges figure it out!"

Engaging an active shooter should be SOP for anyone with a spine and morals. The rest should be reclassed as janitors and bus drivers

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