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Thread: The Quest for the Ultimate in a Lightweight KISS Carbine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    I never went on any quest, call me crazy but I like a carbine ready out of the box, well almost so when I wanted a KISS carbine the 6720 was a no-brainer.

    Switched out the OEM furniture for some BCM that I had taken off a lower then picked up one of their PKMR handguard sets, threw on a DD BUIS, VCAS, and a Frankenlight that I cobbled together from a SF G2 body, SF G3 aluminum bezel, TNVC Cree Q5 lamp, and a SF Z59 clicky tailcap.

    I don't own a postal scale nor do I dabble in 420 so I have no idea what the exact weight is but she's light.


    That setup looks remarkably like mine except: I have a MagPul CTR stock, MagPul MOE handguards with forward p-grip, and folding MBUS instead of the DD 1.5 you have. I think both setups are close enough there's probably not a dime's worth of difference in them.

    The main "weight" I'm finding seems to be in the optic: I've lugged around LPVO's, Meprolights, Aimpoint PRO's, ACOG's, and MRO's.

    I'm settling on the MRO's and Aimpoint T-series red dots as being the lightest so far.

    I'm toying with the idea of a Trijicon RMR with a riser as the only "big step" left to reduce the weight of the optic. As funds allow.

    BTW: My lightweight carbine will be using mostly 20-round USGI mags.


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    For reference, this rifle as pictured (minus mag & ammo) weighs 101.5oz / 6.34lbs. If I went back to the basic factory plastic furniture and took off the QD swivels, it would only save ~2oz.


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    As simple as possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Safari View Post
    The main "weight" I'm finding seems to be in the optic: I've lugged around LPVO's, Meprolights, Aimpoint PRO's, ACOG's, and MRO's.

    I'm settling on the MRO's and Aimpoint T-series red dots as being the lightest so far.

    I'm toying with the idea of a Trijicon RMR with a riser as the only "big step" left to reduce the weight of the optic. As funds allow.
    I was going to mention you should take a look at the RMR if you want the lightest optic possible. The first person I remember seeing run one on a carbine was Pat McNamara.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    I was going to mention you should take a look at the RMR if you want the lightest optic possible. The first person I remember seeing run one on a carbine was Pat McNamara.
    I've heard about this. Do you have a link to his impresssions?


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    RMRs are decent red dots, they don't bother my astigmatism as much as Aimpoints do. I imagine there would be no problem running one as a stand alone.

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    IMO, an RMR would be an ideal lightweight optic, but you sacrifice durability for weight. No personal experience, but they seem like they could be damaged easily if they took the brunt of a drop under an 6-8lb rifle.....not so much with the beefier housings of the EOTech,PRO, MRO, even Micro series.
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