I now humbly apologize, and withdraw my earlier position on modern pistols

[Uni-Vibe]

Not too long ago, I posted the following; it concerned Glocks specifically, but was intended to encompass all striker fired polymer guns:


"Consider the man who carries a 1911. He radiates aplomb as he strides through the city. His eye is intrepid, his gait cocksure, his countenance censorious. He need not fight; youthful gangsters feel his presence in their bones a block away.

"Now consider the man who chooses to carry a firearm that more closely resembles an iPhone than it does one of John Moses Browning's noble creations. Does he move among the thugs with the same dash?"

I was wrong. I was wedded to the old and living in the past. I have changed my position. The 1911 is now sitting on the shelf in the gun cabinet. On the hip is an M&P 9mm, in all its polymer glory. I have joined the modern world; late to the party, perhaps, but there nonetheless. The gun I trust my life to in the Big City is indeed polymer and striker-fired.

[gaijin]

I guess “you whore” is too harsh. (:

Change seems more difficult as I age.
I am genuinely considering a P10-C. It checked all the boxes.

[RHINOWSO]

[grizzman]

In my opinion, liking one platform (1911) doesn't mean that another (plastic fantastic) is automatically disliked.

For carry purposes when size isn't of critical importance, the chosen tool is an aluminum framed a CCO-sized 1911 chambered in .45 Auto. When that's not going to work, a 9mm Gen 1 Shield goes along for the trip.

If firepower trumps all other qualities, a 5" M&P M2.0 9mm, possibly with an extended magazine, is what I'll choose.

Having said that, none of the plastic fantastic approaches the satisfaction of using a fine 1911.

[Uni-Vibe]

In my opinion, liking one platform (1911) doesn't mean that another (plastic fantastic) is automatically disliked.

For carry purposes when size isn't of critical importance, the chosen tool is an aluminum framed a CCO-sized 1911 chambered in .45 Auto. When that's not going to work, a 9mm Gen 1 Shield goes along for the trip.

If firepower trumps all other qualities, a 5" M&P M2.0 9mm, possibly with an extended magazine, is what I'll choose.

Having said that, none of the plastic fantastic approaches the satisfaction of using a fine 1911.

I did exactly the same as you. Small .45 1911 when I could, Shield in the pocket when I couldn't.

But the M&P has replaced the small 1911. 18 rounds is better than 8.

[markm]

"We need to get over the romance of carrying an out-dated, heavy, marginally reliable pistol, and get onto the business of shooting smelly bad guys in the face with a modern pistol" - Markm.

[RHINOWSO]

I did exactly the same as you. Small .45 1911 when I could, Shield in the pocket when I couldn't.

But the M&P has replaced the small 1911. 18 rounds is better than 8.

What happened to the cheap Rugers?

[WillBrink]

Not too long ago, I posted the following; it concerned Glocks specifically, but was intended to encompass all striker fired polymer guns:


"Consider the man who carries a 1911. He radiates aplomb as he strides through the city. His eye is intrepid, his gait cocksure, his countenance censorious. He need not fight; youthful gangsters feel his presence in their bones a block away.

"Now consider the man who chooses to carry a firearm that more closely resembles an iPhone than it does one of John Moses Browning's noble creations. Does he move among the thugs with the same dash?"

I was wrong. I was wedded to the old and living in the past. I have changed my position. The 1911 is now sitting on the shelf in the gun cabinet. On the hip is an M&P 9mm, in all its polymer glory. I have joined the modern world; late to the party, perhaps, but there nonetheless. The gun I trust my life to in the Big City is indeed polymer and striker-fired.

It was the M&P with Apex kit that finally had me make the change from my beloved 1911s, which has been the case for many, even well known 1911 smith, Hilton Yam. You can't be "wrong" by carrying a quality 1911, but we know have polymer guns with ergos that are very close, good triggers (nothing beats a goo 1911 trigger), higher capacity, acceptable accuracy, and less moving parts and need for maintenance. So, that makes it a no brainer for most.

To throw a wrench in all this, the best of all worlds may be the Wilson EDC X9, but I have no experience with it:

https://www.wilsoncombat.com/edc-x9/

[Doc Safari]

Not too long ago, I posted the following; it concerned Glocks specifically, but was intended to encompass all striker fired polymer guns:


"Consider the man who carries a 1911. He radiates aplomb as he strides through the city. His eye is intrepid, his gait cocksure, his countenance censorious. He need not fight; youthful gangsters feel his presence in their bones a block away.

"Now consider the man who chooses to carry a firearm that more closely resembles an iPhone than it does one of John Moses Browning's noble creations. Does he move among the thugs with the same dash?"

I was wrong. I was wedded to the old and living in the past. I have changed my position. The 1911 is now sitting on the shelf in the gun cabinet. On the hip is an M&P 9mm, in all its polymer glory. I have joined the modern world; late to the party, perhaps, but there nonetheless. The gun I trust my life to in the Big City is indeed polymer and striker-fired.

I was with you 'til you said "M&P". My Glock is crying. Repent by purchasing a G17 or G19 forthwith.

I love 1911's. I'd sell every "Plastic Fantasic Lover" I have right now if I could have about five 1911's that feed any kind of ammo and don't cost more than a Glock.

[cistercian]

I was with you 'til you said "M&P". My Glock is crying. Repent by purchasing a G17 or G19 forthwith.

I love 1911's. I'd sell every "Plastic Fantasic Lover" I have right now if I could have about five 1911's that feed any kind of ammo and don't cost more than a Glock.

And that is the problem isn't it. A glorious 1911 built according to my taste is north of 4k. Realistically, more like 6k.
I love them. I have one tuned for weak wadcutter bullseye loads. An old frankenstein match gun my dad had built in the 70's. I spent many hours at the range with dad and have seen first hand just about every 1911 failure mode there is...and there are a lot of them.
When it came time for me to buy a pistol I could not accept fantastic plastic. First I bought a M9A3 Beretta which is fantastic. Then I bought a Sig MK25...also fantastic, and finally a Sig Legion 226 SAO which is the best by far of the 3.
Anyone of them will serve well but the SAO is kind of like a 1911 vastly improved. I know...heretical. Big mecgar mags really seal the deal.

I own no striker fired pistols...the small array I have do everything I will need and they are reliable too.
I acknowledge the new stuff (glock et al) work great but growing up shooting match guns ruined me. The DA/SA action was a big adjustment to be sure. But I got 3 excellent pistols for less than 1 superb 1911...and I am happy with that.

Users that are happy shooting Glocks are lucky...if they shoot them stock they pay way less than I did. They just are not for me.