View Poll Results: Do away with the lying to a federal agent charge?

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Thread: Anyone else think it's time for the "Lying to a Federal agent" charge to go away?

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    Why anyone talks to LE, especially FBI, is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Why anyone talks to LE, especially FBI, is beyond me.
    When you haven't done anything wrong, most people simply try and explain things. Honest people usually have a "let's clear this up" mentality. Not saying it's the smartest thing to do, just understand how and why it happens.
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    Full disclosure I have had dealings in my past with the FBI, was never impressed.

    But my view on the FBI, is when an organization was headed by a cross dressing homosexual for decades that stayed in power by blackmail. How can we ever think it will correct itself, and become virtuous?

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    I know it’s cool to hate on the FBI but I will say that their sharp people are very sharp.

    That said, if you got nothing to say then say nothing. If you are innocent, usually, you will be ruled out. If you are guilty, and you shouldn’t be, then don’t give up any free cheese. Make em earn their pay

    Too many people watch SVU, NCIS, and Training Day and think it is all about curbside Monty Hall. It isn’t. You either got enough to get a warrant or you don’t. If you do, present your facts and evidence and let the liars—er Lawyers, Judges, and DAs has hit out.

    Not enough time in my already pointless life to play Columbo

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    Full disclosure I have had dealings in my past with the FBI, was never impressed.

    But my view on the FBI, is when an organization was headed by a cross dressing homosexual for decades that stayed in power by blackmail. How can we ever think it will correct itself, and become virtuous?
    I worked for a guy who thought JEH was a deity. He would make sure to address the current Director as 'Mr.' because, you know, there was only one director. He told me on numerous occasions that whenever they issued him speed loaders he would give them away, because that wasn't what Hoover had issued him. He about stroked the day I asked him if he had ever read No Left Turns.

    During that time frame, because of his connections, myself and a couple of other guys were at the FBI Academy for one or two weeks each year. My take was that everyone I contacted was wanting to get the last vestiges of the Hooverites in their rear view mirrors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    Full disclosure I have had dealings in my past with the FBI, was never impressed.

    But my view on the FBI, is when an organization was headed by a cross dressing homosexual for decades that stayed in power by blackmail. How can we ever think it will correct itself, and become virtuous?
    And that, wins the internet!
    Three FBI honestly needs to be stripped of all law enforcement power and just run a system that locals can tap into for forensics, behavioral etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    Full disclosure I have had dealings in my past with the FBI, was never impressed.

    But my view on the FBI, is when an organization was headed by a cross dressing homosexual for decades that stayed in power by blackmail. How can we ever think it will correct itself, and become virtuous?
    THAT, sir, begs to be taken viral. May I use it as my Quote of the Day in this week's column?
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    It’s pretty simple. Let them shoot themselves in the foot by trashing people like shit.

    Never ever speak with a federal agent. Period. Envoke your 5th. Even if the investigation has nothing at all to do with you. There are so many laws on the books how do you know you have broken one? How do you know you won’t break one speaking to them?

    If more people actually told them to **** off, they’d have to change their tune.

    And quite honestly don’t speak to local LE either. I know we have plenty of LE on here, some even seem good guys. But how do you know who you’re talking to is a ‘good guy’ you don’t. So don’t risk it.

    Additionally LE always have a lawyer when questioned. I’d call that a clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMS951 View Post
    It’s pretty simple. Let them shoot themselves in the foot by trashing people like shit.

    Never ever speak with a federal agent. Period. Envoke your 5th. Even if the investigation has nothing at all to do with you. There are so many laws on the books how do you know you have broken one? How do you know you won’t break one speaking to them?

    If more people actually told them to **** off, they’d have to change their tune.

    And quite honestly don’t speak to local LE either. I know we have plenty of LE on here, some even seem good guys. But how do you know who you’re talking to is a ‘good guy’ you don’t. So don’t risk it.

    Additionally LE always have a lawyer when questioned. I’d call that a clue.
    YUP that is the funny thing they also try to act like they can make you talk or you go to jail

    the thing about the FBI is it really seems to be political in more ways then local LEO are and much of the FBI I know are lefty leaning big time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honu View Post
    YUP that is the funny thing they also try to act like they can make you talk or you go to jail

    the thing about the FBI is it really seems to be political in more ways then local LEO are and much of the FBI I know are lefty leaning big time
    That can be verified by the shenanigans they pulled before/during/after the 2016 election.
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