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    Latest from the ATF: No more opinion letters Unless . . .

    Latest from the ATF: No more opinion letters Unless . . .

    This is interesting. Just received from the BATFE.


    The BATFE will not render an opinion on the effect of an accessory on a firearm unless that firearm is included with the accessory and the accessory is installed when it is sent to the batfe. One has to wonder if the fact that the ATF is supposedly about to render some new regulations has something to do with this email that I received today.

    The effect that this ruling has on the industry is profound. It greatly increases the cost of bringing new accessories to Market. The accessory manufacturer who is Seeking a determination from the batfe must install the proposed accessory on the firearm that it will be used on and send that combination to the ATF Tech Branch for a determination. This will have a extreme chilling effect own small manufacturers and large manufacturers ability to innovate and bring new products to Market.

    It will also stop every Tom Dick and Harry from riding random letters to the ATF asking them if something is legal or not which often has resulted in contradictory opinions.

    Discontinuance of Accessory ClassificationsEffective Immediately:

    The Firearms Technology Industry Services Branch (FTISB) classifies firearms as defined by the Gun Control Act (GCA) and National Firearms Act (NFA) based on the configuration and the design features of the firearm as submitted by members of the industry.

    Effective immediately, any requests for a determination on how an accessory affects the classification of a firearm under the GCA or NFA must include a firearm with the accessory already installed. Except in cases of conditional import determinations, FTISB will not issue a determination on an accessory unless it is attached to the submitted firearm.

    If you have previously submitted a sample accessory for classification, FTISB will be returning your sample without classification. FTISB will contact you in the near future with further instructions to facilitate the return of your sample.

    https://content.govdelivery.com/acco...letins/22189c1
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    Nevermind

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    The BATFE will not render an opinion on the effect of an accessory on a firearm unless that farm is included with the accessory and install them the accessory when it is sent to the batfe.
    I'm not a grammar nazi, but I had to read that four times to make sure that I understood what you meant.

    Sounds like ATF wants more toys to play with and keep the workload down.
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    They repeated their policy so many times to prevent someone asking for an opinion letter on the letter.

    I don’t see what the problem is here. If you make a prototype accessory you are using a firearm (or a dozen) for R&D. Why not send the firearm with accessory for their approval for full transparency?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fledge View Post
    I don’t see what the problem is here. If you make a prototype accessory you are using a firearm (or a dozen) for R&D. Why not send the firearm with accessory for their approval for full transparency?
    Put a foregrip on a Glock pistol and send it in asking if it is a pistol.

    Get a letter back saying it is not a pistol, it is an AOW. It is confiscated as contraband and you are being referred to the US attorney for charges of making an AOW, possession of AOW, interstate xfer of a AOW, yada, yada, yada.

    I think that is how the tin hat crowd will see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Put a foregrip on a Glock pistol and send it in asking if it is a pistol.

    Get a letter back saying it is not a pistol, it is an AOW. It is confiscated as contraband and you are being referred to the US attorney for charges of making an AOW, possession of AOW, interstate xfer of a AOW, yada, yada, yada.

    I think that is how the tin hat crowd will see it.
    Roger that. I was thinking more from a development perspective. But I can see that abuse of power too...

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    I’m not very hip to things all-NFA, but I know political posturing when I see it. This move saves face from poor decision-making on their part. No more clarifications of clarifications on opinions of opinion letters.

    1. Maker sends in lower with newfangled pistol brace
    2. The brain trust sits around the table and passes it around, chuckling like Snidely Whiplash
    3. Snidely #1 points out that although it “looks” like previous braces on the market, with all the straps and arm holes, it sure “looks” like a stock
    4. Snidely #2: “Well, it looks like a stock to me..”
    4. Snidely #3 - #6 all agree and item is decided to be a stock
    5. They all decide to jump up and high five because they avoided more political entanglement

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    I actual think their might be a silver lining here.

    If I understand correctly, to get an opinion you have to send the item mounted on a firearm. So this will eliminate every idiot in the gun world from writing a letter to the ATF. So it lessens the odds of an idiot pissing someone at ATF off and then they issue an opinion that is not in our best interest just to make the pain in the ass go away.

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    Now it makes perfect sense why you can ask 10 different people within the BATFE the same question and get 10 different answers...They rule by opinion.

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