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Thread: Article: Training for Reality: Reloads and Situational Awareness

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    Quote Originally Posted by danattyfatty View Post
    Just curious. Are you the same “Trophy Husband” that got banned a few weeks back from MDShooters? I do see some parallels.
    I don't recognize the name "MDShooters".
    "When I have your wounded." -- Major Charles L. Kelly, callsign "Dustoff", refusing to acknowledge that an L.Z. was too hot, moments before being killed by a single shot, July 1st, 1964.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ST911 View Post
    Jammer Six- So that we can understand and assign value to your input, what are you an instructor of and who issues your credential? When/what was your last continuing education event? You are criticizing what is essentially the norm for more than a decade, and what is not only allowed but specifically taught and required in a number of programs. These include the NRA, FLETC, and a laundry list of instructors.
    I suggest you assign value as you see fit. Assume that everything I post without citations is my opinion.
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    "When I have your wounded." -- Major Charles L. Kelly, callsign "Dustoff", refusing to acknowledge that an L.Z. was too hot, moments before being killed by a single shot, July 1st, 1964.

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    One thing that was pointed out to me by Tom Givens at TacCon a few years ago re: gamers. They care about tenths of seconds here or there because they really add up during a match. Is there REALLY a big different between a 1.3 draw to first shot hit in the A zone at 7 yds vs. the same hit in 1.0 second? On the street, not really. But in a match of 6-10 stages, with a draw for each stage, that might add up to 1.8-3.0 seconds, which can mean the difference between 1st place and 6th place.

    This is not to say that competition does not have a place. Givens himself was involved early in IDPA (his number is like 000008 or something like that), only that one must recognize what that "place" is. As an audit of skills, it's decent for what it is. But anything like USPSA or IDPA that has "rules" is, by definition, a game.


    I recently had a friend of mine watch me shoot a local IDPA match. I happened to have a bad day, but that's immaterial to this discussion. He's an ex-mil and ex-intel guy, a true "sharp end of the spear", been-there, done-that guy, now (mostly) retired. His advice to me, afterwards, was, and I quote: "Gunfighting isn't anything like shooting a match......until it is." He said that ANYTHING that has you thinking with a gun in your hand is good practice for the real thing. Something to think about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    As far as the shooters elbow, I drive my elbow into my side at the same spot each time I reload as it orients the pistol to the same location in space each time. Because of using techniques like this, I'm certain I could accomplish a reload, with my eyes closed, while doing a flip off the high board, but I'm scared to try.
    Absolutely... and you use the same body position to reload the M4 and you save your brain's RAM for other things. Plus, holding a 6+ pound rifle leveled out at a berm, whether real or imaginary, while reloading would suck.

    Quote Originally Posted by T2C View Post
    I am a firm believer in both live fire training AND Force on Force training. Force on Force training with Simmunitions will often reveal deficiencies in a person's ability to react to a dynamic situation. I have seen people who could shoot a high Master score on a qualification course have their lunch handed to them by a person who shoots lower scores.
    We call that "ballroom shooting" as opposed to "gunfighting". Some of the guys at work who shoot the tightest groups on paper lose gunfights when the UTM bolts get swapped in. Punching pretty holes on paper doesn't apply the same pressure as shooting at someone trying to shoot you back. I'm looking at joining a local range next year that does IDPA matches. I've talked with guys that shoot there and heard things like there's no real need to turn on the dot in their pistol's RDS because they are just squeezing the trigger the moment the backer is seen through the glass and I've seen the results on their backers. I've also shot with them in a IDPA type set-up (non-competition) and seen them crowd their cover something fierce and all I picture is that poor Dallas Transit Cop getting flanked around the pole by that turd a few years ago. There is a "happy medium" of losing some speed for sound tactics and I'll have no problems staying humble while "losing" and trying to speed up my high-center chest hits while still using good tactics even if they beat me in the actual competition.

    Anyway... sorry to contribute to the derail.

    A take-away from the article for me that I didn't see mentioned already: Moving my CCW's reload from my front pocket to my back pocket. When training from my concealed set-up, I tend to move toward cover/ concealment while reloading instead of just standing still. I've never had the easiest time pulling my magazine from my front pocket because of the movement of my thigh when running like a bitch.. err, in a tactically-sound manner... I would imagine that some of this would be mitigated by having my mag in my back pocket. Thanks for that... going to give it a whirl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    So are you doing training, or playing army with Sims to see who wins? There is a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defaultmp3 View Post
    AIWB is allowed in USPSA in limited, lim10, and open. Gabe White has a good article about his journey: http://www.gabewhitetraining.com/art...ndix-carriers/
    Gabe is an excellent fellow. Very nice to chat with in person, and he worked very, very hard to get where he is. He's also the only person to shoot a perfect score at the Rogers School from concealment, with his regular carry gear.

    So he probably knows a bit about how to run a pistol efficiently and safely. Bill Rogers and his crew do not allow safety violators to stick around very long.

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    Hey Guys, I Have to ask because I don't know what the term "gamers" is you're talking about, is some computer game or are you talking about Paint ball-Air Soft stuff?

    I have enjoyed reading ALL of your thoughts!

    I was going to say sorry but what the Heyyy... If You don't know, you don't know...

    TIA

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    "Gamers" is often used as a term of derision to refer to those who are involved heavily in the various shooting sport disciplines out there, and there are a lot, such as IDPA, steel plate shooting, three-gun competitions, etc. etc. etc.

    Of course we all know the true masters of the craft of tactical and combative use of firearms are those dedicated warriors who practice their craft in front of large flat-screen high-def televisions playing Call of Duty: Black Ops. These are the Tier One Gamers.

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    LMAO

    Thanks RKR and for keeping it cool, to the point..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RKR View Post
    "Gamers" is often used as a term of derision to refer to those who are involved heavily in the various shooting sport disciplines out there, and there are a lot, such as IDPA, steel plate shooting, three-gun competitions, etc. etc. etc.

    Of course we all know the true masters of the craft of tactical and combative use of firearms are those dedicated warriors who practice their craft in front of large flat-screen high-def televisions playing Call of Duty: Black Ops. These are the Tier One Gamers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RVTMaverick View Post
    Hey Guys, I Have to ask because I don't know what the term "gamers" is you're talking about, is some computer game or are you talking about Paint ball-Air Soft stuff?
    Gamers - folks who overthink, overplan, and over strategize shooting scenarios. Like an IDPA stage. Plan their shooting sequence, foot movement, reloads, target engagement, equipment, yada, yada, yada. All things you will never have time to do in a real gunfight.

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