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    Trump Threatens to Close the Border with Mexico

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-overhaul.html

    'We build a Wall or close the Southern Border entirely': Trump demands a wall AND an overhaul of 'ridiculous immigration laws' in the U.S. in latest tirade against Democrats
    President Donald Trump returned Friday to a threat to close the nation's southern border if he doesn't get his wall money from Congress.

    Trump warned as the weekend began that he'll close every port of entry, if he doesn't see progress not only on his wall, but on a total immigration overhaul.

    'We build a Wall or close the Southern Border,' he declared.

    He claimed in tweets in the last day that Democratic opposition to his wall is totally political in nature and is untethered from their assertions that his desired border barrier would be impractical. The president said they should work harder to end the current shutdown, because it mainly affects their voters.

    Trump also said once more that he could cut off aid to Central America as he raged about the formation of a new caravan.

    His incoming chief of staff announced from the White House lawn that he thought the president's threat to close the border at least was serious.
    My take: I hope he goes through with it. We should have had Checkpoint Charlie at the Southern Border 30 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Safari View Post
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    My take: I hope he goes through with it. We should have had Checkpoint Charlie at the Southern Border 30 years ago.
    The trick is to make it as painful as possible on those who support Chuck, Nancy and others who support open borders. I'm not sure how exactly that could happen, but this fight will continue until they feel the pain.
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    Do it Donald, don't backstep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Safari View Post
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-overhaul.html





    My take: I hope he goes through with it. We should have had Checkpoint Charlie at the Southern Border 30 years ago.
    There’s still enough of us around that know how to do it the right way.


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    Question: all these illegals being dumped by ICE in El Paso.....is that because of a law or a judicial edict? If it is the latter Trump should ignore it until the inevitable appeal gets to the SCOTUS.

    EDIT: Okay, did some Googling and it is due to the Flores Agreement, which resulted from a lawsuit in 1997. So it's NOT a law. Trump should ignore it. Once the other side whines enough and files suit it will eventually make it's way to the SCOTUS. They shot down his previous order because the Asylum Law stipulated you don't have to declare asylum just at a port of entry; bullshit, but part of the law nonetheless. However, this Flores Agreement should be ignored until decided by the highest court.

    Some on here were critical of Trump for trying to do the port of entry thing. Said it was in violation of the Asylum Law. SCOTUS found it to be so. Some horseshit "agreement" isn't a LAW though. I'm sure someone (one of our resident Trump haters no doubt) will be along shortly to say that the Flores Agreement is like a law, even though it isn't one. I wanna see the spin on this.....
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    I want Trump to quit talking about shutting the border down, quit talking about cutting off foreign aid, and DO IT, DONALD!!! Quit running your pie hole, and DO IT!!!! DO IT RIGHT FU#$ING NOW!
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    Trump Threatens to Close the Border with Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    Question: all these illegals being dumped by ICE in El Paso.....is that because of a law or a judicial edict? If it is the latter Trump should ignore it until the inevitable appeal gets to the SCOTUS.

    EDIT: Okay, did some Googling and it is due to the Flores Agreement, which resulted from a lawsuit in 1997. So it's NOT a law. Trump should ignore it. Once the other side whines enough and files suit it will eventually make it's way to the SCOTUS. They shot down his previous order because the Asylum Law stipulated you don't have to declare asylum just at a port of entry; bullshit, but part of the law nonetheless. However, this Flores Agreement should be ignored until decided by the highest court.

    Some on here were critical of Trump for trying to do the port of entry thing. Said it was in violation of the Asylum Law. SCOTUS found it to be so. Some horseshit "agreement" isn't a LAW though. I'm sure someone (one of our resident Trump haters no doubt) will be along shortly to say that the Flores Agreement is like a law, even though it isn't one. I wanna see the spin on this.....
    Should be law or policy that you can only request asylum at the embassy in the country you trying to leave. Period.


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    Trump ought to close it down anyway.

    Whenever anyone crosses the border illegally and is caught, the entire border should be closed down while we do an investigation as to how they did it, what went wrong, and a fix put in place. Until then, nobody should cross. If we do an "Israeli investigation", each may take a year.

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    A complete closure is gonna impact the economy tremendously...I worked in Mexico for 15 years & shutting down the supply chain wouldn't be wise. Thousands & thousands of US layoffs due to line down & massive market crash is likely. I'm in the trenches & live / see the need for his border security agenda more than anyone, but a closure imo would end up haunting Don & don't see this happening. No real good answers & Schumer has him by the short hairs.

    Maybe trivial the way the MSM reports but Don handled the 'gladly owning' of this shutdown poorly...he should have stated 'if the house passes the $5 billion for barriers & the senate denies, then it's another Schumer shutdown. I don't know if there is another person I've ever loathed as much as this man. The fact he's on record overwhelmingly supporting barriers in the recent past & now putting our national security in great risk all over politics / power is abhorrent. Still, we've had decades to address migration & shouldn't even be in this mess. Total fail by our elected 'public servants' going back to Bush one till today!! Sticks in my craw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Bullseye View Post
    Trump ought to close it down anyway.

    Whenever anyone crosses the border illegally and is caught, the entire border should be closed down while we do an investigation as to how they did it, what went wrong, and a fix put in place. Until then, nobody should cross. If we do an "Israeli investigation", each may take a year.
    And the first two budget-mandated welcome shelters, need to be built in Pe-LOUSY and Schmuckle's back yards.
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