Trump Threatens to Close the Border with Mexico

[Dr. Bullseye]

Trump ought to close it down anyway.

Whenever anyone crosses the border illegally and is caught, the entire border should be closed down while we do an investigation as to how they did it, what went wrong, and a fix put in place. Until then, nobody should cross. If we do an "Israeli investigation", each may take a year.

[Artos]

A complete closure is gonna impact the economy tremendously...I worked in Mexico for 15 years & shutting down the supply chain wouldn't be wise. Thousands & thousands of US layoffs due to line down & massive market crash is likely. I'm in the trenches & live / see the need for his border security agenda more than anyone, but a closure imo would end up haunting Don & don't see this happening. No real good answers & Schumer has him by the short hairs.

Maybe trivial the way the MSM reports but Don handled the 'gladly owning' of this shutdown poorly...he should have stated 'if the house passes the $5 billion for barriers & the senate denies, then it's another Schumer shutdown. I don't know if there is another person I've ever loathed as much as this man. The fact he's on record overwhelmingly supporting barriers in the recent past & now putting our national security in great risk all over politics / power is abhorrent. Still, we've had decades to address migration & shouldn't even be in this mess. Total fail by our elected 'public servants' going back to Bush one till today!! Sticks in my craw.

[Doc Safari]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...ll-talks-begin

Hours before talks with Dems on a border security compromise were set to begin, the Pentagon announced that it's planning to send thousands of troops to the US border.

The troops will augment the roughly 3,000 US troops that are currently deployed at the border. These troops are serving in primarily support roles like assisting border patrol agents and offering logistical assistance thanks to a federal law that prevents the military from carrying out law enforcement functions within the US's borders.

My take: They may be watching this closely:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...look-venezuela

(O)il thieves have been drilling holes in Mexico’s extensive network of oil and gas piplelines across the country to steal fuel and sell it on the black market.

State-owned oil company PEMEX found more than 12,500 illegal holes in the pipelines last year.

And these oil thieves went as far as building a 2-mile long pipe themselves to divert oil directly from the refineries.

Selling oil on the secondary market is a highly lucrative business in Mexico. And some farmers who take up a job as lookouts for the thieves can earnmore than five times their regular income doing so.

The work is also incredibly dangerous… more than 80 people recently died in a pipeline explosion north of Mexico City when they were trying to siphon off gas.

But Mexico’s new president has decided to do something about this.

And in typical, political brilliance, he ordered the pipelines to be shut down.

So now, instead of transporting oil and gas via pipelines, they’ll ship everything via truck and rail.

There are only a few TINY issues with that solution: it costs up to 14 times more to send fuel via trucks. And more importantly, it takes weeks longer to arrive at the stations.

The result? Severe gasoline shortages.

Across the entire country, including in the biggest cities of Mexico City and Guadalajara, more than 1,000 gas stations have been closed. Many of those still open have limited purchases of gas up to five gallons per person.

And the lines to get to them can reach up to a mile-long.

People have now started hoarding gasoline and re-selling it on the black market.

So much for cracking down on oil theft.

The result is millions of people with no access to gas. They cannot go to work, see their families, or go about their lives as they did just a few days ago.

It’s almost starting to look like Venezuela – the storybook example of what happens to a country gripped by corrupt socialism.

If Mexico is on the verge of chaos, we certainly want to contain it.

[Dr. Bullseye]

We are in a war with Mexico. Seal the border.

[SteveS]

The illegals are job security for the government employees handing out the welfare benefits.

[The_War_Wagon]

Trump ought to close it down anyway.

Whenever anyone crosses the border illegally and is caught, the entire border should be closed down while we do an investigation as to how they did it, what went wrong, and a fix put in place. Until then, nobody should cross. If we do an "Israeli investigation", each may take a year.

And the first two budget-mandated welcome shelters, need to be built in Pe-LOUSY and Schmuckle's back yards.

[SteyrAUG]

So who remembers NAFTA? Remember that great Bill Clinton idea where nearly all of American "production" actually happens in Mexico?

Can anyone figure out the "check mate" ultimatum should anyone dream about enforcing, let alone closing the border?

Of course we could just abandon 2018 production and start making cars, tvs and everything else back in the US. That would be fine with me.

[26 Inf]

Of course we could just abandon 2018 production and start making cars, tvs and everything else back in the US. That would be fine with me.

Sounds good, but then you have to ask: How long would it take to spool up production? What do we do in the meantime?

[jpmuscle]

Side point

I was having a conversation with a gal from a think tank in DC and she raised an interesting point about us being the largest consumers of other countries resources (steel production, oil, etc) instead of using our own resources and the long term strategic implications of us doing so.


Gave me a little different perspective on some things


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[SteyrAUG]

Sounds good, but then you have to ask: How long would it take to spool up production? What do we do in the meantime?

Drive BMWs (made in the US), Sharp TVs are made in the US and things like that. We can create a lot of jobs just by cleaning up Detroit so that we can start making anything there again. Or maybe just move production to Texas.