Benefits of a Pistol Caliber Carbine?

[RetroRevolver77]

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[Marine Corporal]

As per the title of this thread, another benefit of a PCC over let’s say a .223 rifle is barrier penetration. A .223 bullet is more likely to fragment in drywall or through furniture then a pistol round will.

In this scenario below, a pistol bullet has better chances in penetrating the drywall and continue penetrating sufficiently afterwords.

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[1168]

As per the title of this thread, another benefit of a PCC over let’s say a .223 rifle is barrier penetration. A .223 bullet is more likely to fragment in drywall or through furniture then a pistol round will.

In this scenario below, a pistol bullet has better chances in penetrating the drywall and continue penetrating sufficiently afterwords.

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You shooting varmint rounds or something? Or simunitions? Maybe those blue plastic bullets?

That doesn’t look like cover to me.

I feel like we’re jumping sharks at this point.

[jpmuscle]

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[Firefly]

Im pretty sure an 855 or a TSX would go through that wall moooost ricky tick.

But okay

[Marine Corporal]

You shooting varmint rounds or something? Or simunitions? Maybe those blue plastic bullets?

That doesn’t look like cover to me.

https://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box...sulated-walls/

http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?opt...d=14&Itemid=26

Summary of FBI test

From FBI
If an operator misses the intended target, the .223 will generally have less wounding potential than some pistol rounds after passing through a wall or similar structure. The close range penetration tests conducted indicated that high velocity .223 rounds were initially unstable and may, depending on their construction, disintegrate when they strike an object that offers some resistance. When concrete, brick or macadam are struck at an angle at close range, .223 rounds tent to fragment or break up, and ricochets are generally less hazardous. The .223 could consequently be considered safer for urban street engagements, because of its inherent frangibility within the cross-compartments created by street environments. In other words, in most shootings, the round would probably strike something, hopefully a hard object, break up and quickly end its potentially lethal odyssey.

[jpmuscle]

Im pretty sure an 855 or a TSX would go through that wall moooost ricky tick.

But okay

Brown tip ftw yo


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[vicious_cb]

As per the title of this thread, another benefit of a PCC over let’s say a .223 rifle is barrier penetration. A .223 bullet is more likely to fragment in drywall or through furniture then a pistol round will.

In this scenario below, a pistol bullet has better chances in penetrating the drywall and continue penetrating sufficiently afterwords.

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This thread officially went full retard. You just drank your own PCC koolaid.

[26 Inf]

I'll say it again folks - this is only looking at it from a narrow perspective:

The FBI says: The .223 could consequently be considered safer for urban street engagements, because of its inherent frangibility within the cross-compartments created by street environments. In other words, in most shootings, the round would probably (IMO this should be HOPEFULLY) strike something, hopefully a hard object (again HOPEFULLY a hard object versus a baby in a stroller), break up and quickly end its potentially lethal odyssey.

I'll say it again, in an urban scenario, you need to not only consider barrier penetration but also the downrange danger zone. The downrange danger zone is substantially greater with an AR than a pistol or a shotty.

That doesn't mean we should not use rifles, just don't hark on stuff that is largely inconsequential in comparison.

[26 Inf]

As per the title of this thread, another benefit of a PCC over let’s say a .223 rifle is barrier penetration. A .223 bullet is more likely to fragment in drywall or through furniture then a pistol round will.

In this scenario below, a pistol bullet has better chances in penetrating the drywall and continue penetrating sufficiently afterwords.

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Got to tell you, I'm planning to shoot you in the noggin whether using a pistol, rifle, shotgun, PCC, or a compound bow.