20" AR15A4 Home Defense?

[Diamondback]

ETA- I need to stop typing on my iPad, it wants to autocorrect me in bad ways. I should have proofed my post closer.

OT: Stick, you might consider one of those Bluetooth keyboard-folio things. There are many reasons my clunker POS tablet makes me want to Frisbee it out into the path of a semi, but since I got one of those keyboards for it typing has ceased to be one of them.

[SouthwestAviator]

You are indeed correct. The carbine system works fine in its current military form. That doesn't make everyone's overgassed cheapo barrel a miracle, but solid weapons like Colt aren't going to be problematic.


ETA- I need to stop typing on my iPad, it wants to autocorrect me in bad ways. I should have proofed my post closer.

Ah, gotcha.

[Stickman]

OT: Stick, you might consider one of those Bluetooth keyboard-folio things. There are many reasons my clunker POS tablet makes me want to Frisbee it out into the path of a semi, but since I got one of those keyboards for it typing has ceased to be one of them.

Thanks, that might be the route to go. I think I would rather have typos than to have it replacing words for me.

[SeriousStudent]

I just put this together a couple of months ago with the Colt 20" I recently stole.

Just how in the hell are you still alive???

There should not even be DNA traces left of you, after merely touching that thing. Your home should have been replaced by a sea of radioactive glass, and not even so much as a cockroach left alive in your town.

Good Lord, are you mad??

[Eurodriver]

What stock did the original “M16A5” concepts have way back in the day? I can’t remember but they looked so good. I always wanted one but couldn’t justify two A4s.

Edit found it. it was VLTOR. Duh.

https://i.redd.it/v21tbb4ocyf11.jpg

[Diamondback]

Thanks, that might be the route to go. I think I would rather have typos than to have it replacing words for me.

This is also why before I had to put my mother somewhere I could take care of her round-the-clock, I schlepped my laptop everywhere like a digital colostomy bag. (Limited to within ten feet of an electrical outlet for setting up and takes a half hour each way to limber/unlimber, but anything I can do I can do from anywhere that I can get power and wifi.) LOL I'm about ready to dump tablets entirely and look for a 2-in-1 Chromebook as my "mobile terminal" to replace them... Discount Electronics occasionally has a $120 10" Dell netbook that I've been considering as a dedicated Armorer Bench system except that it has a crappy low-capacity hard drive and Windows 10 gives me urges toward its creators best not discussed in a public forum and especially in the company of LEOs.

But now we're getting OT, so back to the main topic, bearing in mind I'm a deskbound slob who's never had to clear a building: A 20" A4 wouldn't be my *first* choice for Home D, but it'd be far from my last, a hell of a lot better than either say a Ruger 10/22, a Garand/M1A or a semi-Thompson--I think one of the "tribal elders" here once said that at the start the USER is the weak link in the operating chain, so train and drill and exercise with what you have until the hardware holds you back rather than you holding it back, then figure out what part the "hold back" is and fix that--in my case, this is a slapped-together MacGyverized 10.3" pistol until the budget falls together for my 12.5" build. (I'm limited by budget to one a year, though with some of the antics from the idiots in Seattle and Olympia I'm thinking loans, call in favors, whatever within legal limits I have to do to get my M4 and the girlfriend's C8 fast-tracked before our "Assault Weapon" BS takes effect in July. Somebody needs to tell our AG Bob Ferguson to eat a fat brown one...)

[ViniVidivici]

Turd Ferguson should be fired, tarred and feathered, at the very least.

[AndyLate]

I get the love for the rifle stock, but the ability to change length of pull with the A5 system is a benefit to me and the folks I shoot with, especially with magified optics.

I know a standard carbine receiver extension is fine on a rifle (with the correct buffer weight), but the A5 with a standard weight buffer just works.

If you are using a musket to clear rooms, the being able to easily shorten OAL has to be a good thing too.

[SouthwestAviator]

I can use the same justification to avoid putting a weapon mounted white light and RDS on it as well. "I'll probably never need it" doesn't mean one cannot get by without them, but doesn't refute the advantages they bring either.

It's just honest advice based on my experience. I made specific points about the choice to use a longer long gun indoors.

But don't many guys do house clearing with short ARs wearing a suppressor making it about the same length as a 20" with the stock collapsed? What specific ways would a 20" hinder one indoors? I'm not being snarky, I'm just trying to understand. I'm not that knowledgeable about house clearing.

[Hammer_Man]

But don't many guys do house clearing with short ARs wearing a suppressor making it about the same length as a 20" with the stock collapsed? What specific ways would a 20" hinder one indoors? I'm not being snarky, I'm just trying to understand. I'm not that knowledgeable about house clearing.

14.5" barrel + 6" suppressor = 20" overall barrel length. So yes, a suppressor equipped carbine will be just about as long up front as an A4. However, the carbine can be more maneuverable than a standard A4, due to the shorter length of pull.