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What about ten-rounders? For those in restricted states, who makes the best 10-round mags. Unfortunately 10-round G17 and G19 OEM mags aren't as reliable as their full capacity counterparts.
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I Glock still making them the way they used to? We used to have officers come through with 10 rounders during the ban and I don't recall any specific problems. We regularly dropped them on concrete during training.
Because of their translucent body, the ETS mags let you see how they decrease capacity to ten, and it looks sketchy to me. You can see where my concern arises by looking at the photos in the link:
https://www.etsgroup.us/ETS-Group-Tr.../glk-17-10.htm
As you can see, rounds are kind of cock-eyed to one another, I'd describe it as going from semi-single stack at the bottom to semi-double stack at the top. It looks from the pictures as if the rounds 'pivot' around a rib in the magazine body. I like ETS mags, all I use in my action pistol Glock, but that 10-rounder is one mag I would have to use under all conditions before I'd trust it.
I do not know how Magpul does theirs, but unlike ETS, they: Utilizes the same double stack feed geometry as the standard capacity PMAG GL9 to ensure feeding and to avoid known reliability issues seen in many competitor products on the market.
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First time I saw the pics, several years ago now...i thought the same thing brother. But, two things: 1. How do we know that aint what they do or look like inside of every other non see-through mags? 2. I own/shoot and use many many of the ETS Glock mags and several of the AR mags, several for years now. I just am not having any trouble with them..other that possibly the springs being very stiff when new. I get a new one, I load it to capacity, usually with difficulty, leave it be until next range trip, and after 2-3 cycles they are easier to load and good to go.
Let me say this in all honesty- Ive NOT used a 10 round mag, so if that specific mag has issues, I cant legit comment.
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Pmag 17rd and 21rd have given me no problems and i've been using them as range mags for however long they have been available for. Drawbacks are they're slighter harder to load and don't have as easy of a loaded round count. If you get them on sale they're worth it for range mags.
ETS are still a no-go for me.
Has something changed? I really only used pre 2004 10rds mags in Gen 2 Glocks, but never had a problem when they would only accept 10. When they started accepting 11, slide forward (either initial loading or tac reloads) would result in a malfunction but not recalling any issues with the remaining 10rds.
I now have 3 17rnders and 1 21 rnder.
What I've discovered, with these 4 mags, is that they're not 100% reliable with steel case ammo, but ARE 100% reliable with everything else.
This is, it seems, due to the "roughhess", higher friction, on the outside of the steel cases.
3 of those I've decided to use the hell out of as range mags, so my factory mags stay loaded (read preserved).
The 21 rnder is often carried as one the spares, as I do trust it.
I see more of them in my future.
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