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    I came across a eating plan for natural body builders which allocated calories based upon the individuals weight, which was to be taken once a week upon waking up. The idea being that you'd constantly be lowering the total calorie intake to match your weight loss or gain goals. The starting allocation was 11 calories per pound. This Macros would be 1.25-1.5g of protein per lb of body weight, carbs being 40-60% of the total allocation of calories less the amount for protein and the remaining balance went to fat. If after a week if weight loss goals weren't being met, you would decrease to 9 or 10 calories per pound for example.

    I don't recall coming across a plan that had this constant adjustment based on weight and found it interesting. Its interesting considering the information in the article, about how people become more metabolically efficient as their weight decreased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    The metabolic effect of weight loss surgery resets the set point. There aren't any non-surgical treatments available yet.
    So your two choices are some sort of weight loss surgery or a lifetime of extreme discipline, diligence and dedication of controlling how much you eat?

    I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. Is the article saying that some people have a set point that's way into the obese category?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKDoug View Post
    So your two choices are some sort of weight loss surgery or a lifetime of extreme discipline, diligence and dedication of controlling how much you eat?

    I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. Is the article saying that some people have a set point that's way into the obese category?
    Yes. But there are multiple factors that make up what the set point actually is. They include genetics, environment, and behavior. You canít do anything about the genetics. You can repudiate the behavior, which most of learned growing up in a less nutritionally aware culture...the way of eating that our parents taught us, but thatís not easy to turn your back on, just like any other set of lifetime habits. Environment? Thatís complicated. It includes things like..how much television you watch, how far you live from a Dennyís (for example)...even the size of your dinner plates at home.

    Itís hard enough to wake up one day and just decide to change your lifestyle...eat healthy, exercise more etc, but itís REALLY hard when your set point has your body pumping out massive amounts of ghrelin even if you miss just one meal. The success rate for significant weight loss (defined as losing 50% of your body mass and keeping it off for two years) using diet and exercise alone is repeatedly demonstrated as being about 2%. 98% of people fail at long term weight loss, even with pharmacologic support (google the Fen-phen trial).

    Physiology is a bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    Yes. But there are multiple factors that make up what the set point actually is. They include genetics, environment, and behavior. You can’t do anything about the genetics. You can repudiate the behavior, which most of learned growing up in a less nutritionally aware culture...the way of eating that our parents taught us, but that’s not easy to turn your back on, just like any other set of lifetime habits. Environment? That’s complicated. It includes things like..how much television you watch, how far you live from a Denny’s (for example)...even the size of your dinner plates at home.

    It’s hard enough to wake up one day and just decide to change your lifestyle...eat healthy, exercise more etc, but it’s REALLY hard when your set point has your body pumping out massive amounts of ghrelin even if you miss just one meal. The success rate for significant weight loss (defined as losing 50% of your body mass and keeping it off for two years) using diet and exercise alone is repeatedly demonstrated as being about 2%. 98% of people fail at long term weight loss, even with pharmacologic support (google the Fen-phen trial).

    Physiology is a bitch.
    I guess I'll strive to be that 2% then, not much else I can do. Insurance isn't going to cover any type of surgery for a 255# guy that wants to get down to 190 or so. I haven't had any real issues with being hungry while doing this for a couple months. I guess one way to stay on task is to educate myself about all the reasons you can fail, and try not to do them. I haven't spent a dime on supplements, diet pills, or diet programs, so I won't have the disappointment of spending a bunch of money and failing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKDoug View Post
    Basically the same thing I am doing. I'm in the middle of a huge re-model roofing project on a house we bought. Three months ago I couldn't have dreamed of being up there, but 35lbs lighter today made it possible. I'm on day 7 without a break and I'm still going up and down the ladder with no issues. Still have 65lbs to go.
    LOL! It was easier keeping my 300 yd long mountainside driveway cleared of snow this winter but Iím still not climbing up on my two story roof because I hate heights! Good on you brother!
    If I can lose another 10# Iíll be a happy camper, if I can keep it off Iíll hopefully live to be an ancient happy camper. My parents are both 89 and still kicking in spite of their diet. Biscuits, gravy and pizza are food groups to them, no wonder I managed to pack on excess ballast over my 60 years. Being on the LEO diet plan for over 30 years didnít help either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnar da Wolf View Post
    LOL! It was easier keeping my 300 yd long mountainside driveway cleared of snow this winter but I’m still not climbing up on my two story roof because I hate heights! Good on you brother!
    If I can lose another 10# I’ll be a happy camper, if I can keep it off I’ll hopefully live to be an ancient happy camper. My parents are both 89 and still kicking in spite of their diet. Biscuits, gravy and pizza are food groups to them, no wonder I managed to pack on excess ballast over my 60 years. Being on the LEO diet plan for over 30 years didn’t help either.
    LOL... I don't shovel snow. My snow shovels are yellow and have CAT written on their sides. I even designed my house so I can plow within an inch of the door threshold. Hmmm.. maybe that's why I'm fat.

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