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    Quote Originally Posted by wolffie View Post
    This is something that I’ve always struggled with. As a teenager one summer of running and weights and i went from being the fatkid to pretty lean and muscular. I rode that for a while and after grad school i quit working out, ate like crap, and one morning I looked in the mirror and i was 6’3” and 350lb. I joined the gym, cleaned up my diet, cut back in booze, started running as a way to meet people in a new city, and next think I knew i was a lean looking 225 at the end if my first marathon. Being single and living alone it was easy to control my diet. A couple years later, I crossed the finish line of my first Ironman at 245... suddenly i wasn’t living alone, I had to eat around someone else schedule, and with training 28 hr a week and working full time. I ate garbage to keep moving and ate formal sit down meals at home... now, 7 years later. With a family, I’m not in control of my meal schedule, or workout schedule. And I’m 295... even though I did my 14th half Ironman last weekend. The lessons I’ve learned are.

    1 it’s time to get serious about diet. And I need to get my wife on board.
    2 running is good for me. Long triathlons are not. Running mentally helps me to control my diet. I comeback from a long run tired and nauseous. My body tells me to eat light and sleep. Swimming, I feel great but am voraciously hungry. Amd grab anything I can find. My wife is a snacker, and buys things I never trusted myself to have in the house. Cycling is neutral. I’m not starving. But not burning the same calories.
    3 all day activity is great for weight loss. Example, surfing. It’s not a huge caloric burn. But I’m not eating on a surf board. And it’s fun so keeps me going. Hiking is bad, because my wife packs snacks.
    Dude. This post is epic.

    You can't count on getting the wife to join. You HAVE to find a way to make it work with or without her involvement. This is a new dynamic I'm trying to figure out in real time as well. I have a feeling your gal and mine are a lot a like. She's lucky and naturally very lean. I wish my struggle was to add muscle. I feel I'm at the opposite. I feel my genetics stray me toward being skinny fat or just fat, as evidenced by others in my family. She, on the other hand, can pound pizza.

    I like long slow runs for mental health, as they give me a sense of calm. But, for weight loss, intervals are where its at. The ideal interval length is 3:00-5:00. This will hurt some people's feelings that think they can run hard for :30 and count it as an interval. It takes much longer than that for your HR to even elevate to a point where you are training near your max. When the average person's HR crosses 120 BPM, they will feel very exerted. This isn't ideal for interval or VO2 max training, which calls for much more.

    Easy pace training is good for mental health, but intervals are where its at for weight loss. They are HARD workouts. It sucks. Consider doing 4x 800m at your 5k race pace. If you're on a treadmill add 1.0 incline. When I was 30, that would have been an off day. At near 41, by the 4th interval, its hard w HR in the mid 170s. 800m or 1200m are ideal interval lengths for running. 200m are good for form drills, 400m to a lesser extent, but the exertion at time is key. It takes a bit to build up your HR.

    Its about you. You cannot depend on the actions of others. You have to make it work in your situation.
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    I don't run any more. It just hurts too much for too long (basically no lumbar spine, poor disc composition, and other back pathology
    Thanks, Uncle Sam). I have found other forms of aerobic exercise for the same benefits where I don't hurt after.

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    We're going through the same thing with my mother, two shot knees due to arthritis so she can't run, a bad back that only lets her even *stand* for maybe two minutes and morbid obesity--we're trying to get her down to "surgery weight" but with her only having three hour sessions between cardiac rehab and physical therapy a week, it's slow. Hard to get nutritional support because of the fact that her HMO doesn't even wanna let you talk to a nutritionist unless you agree to schedule surgery for half your guts cut out and even then all they can say is "Mediterranean Diet and eat more fish whether you're allergic to 'em or not"... but we're slowly putting points on the board, two steps forward then one back, a pound or two here and another there.
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    Obesity is of the 2000s as AIDS was of the 1980s, only no one seems to realize it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bp7178 View Post
    Obesity is of the 2000s as AIDS was of the 1980s, only no one seems to realize it.
    It's worse than that. Obesity has long surpassed smoking as the most prominent negative contributor to the health of the US population. Only no one seems to realize it.

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    Sorry. Took me a bit to get back to this. Things have improved diet wise. I’ve gotten used to just eating less at those sit down meals. And cutting back on the snacks. My wife has kind of acquiesced to the idea that I can just eat a few bites and then just focus on feeding the baby. It’s a slow conversion. But I’m trying to make it permanent.

    And I’m with you in the 800 and 1200 repeats. That’s the best way I’ve found to really improve pace and endurance. The long weekend runs are part of my “alone time.” My usual week consists of an interval day, a tempo day and a long day. Plus two extra short slow runs after a bike day. Signing up for races is what keeps me consistent and motivated. My next 70.3 is the end of September in Augusta and I’m hoping to seriously redeem myself from Virginia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bp7178 View Post
    Obesity is of the 2000s as AIDS was of the 1980s, only no one seems to realize it.
    It's well understood within the public health sectors and such, but the public does not care, vs not realize it per se. And there's some trying their best to have people accept obesity as normal and healthy. It may be "normal" today by the shear numbers, but it sure as chit is not healthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    It's well understood within the public health sectors and such, but the public does not care, vs not realize it per se. And there's some trying their best to have people accept obesity as normal and healthy. It may be "normal" today by the shear numbers, but it sure as chit is not healthy.
    There are still people who smoke, for chrissakes.

    Obesity is a very complex and misunderstood disease. Relative to your statement above, most people look down their nose and think that the solution is as simple as... "just push yourself away from the table, fatass".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    There are still people who smoke, for chrissakes.

    Obesity is a very complex and misunderstood disease. Relative to your statement above, most people look down their nose and think that the solution is as simple as... "just push yourself away from the table, fatass".
    Precisely! No one is not aware of the dangers of smoking at this point, yet millions still do it. My mothers generation at least had an excuse of sorts as they didn't know how bad it was, and they were being told dangers were overblown, etc. My mother would say she would have never started had she known of the dangers. She died of smoking related cancer at 58, one week before 9-11.

    People are now being sent mixed messages too now, when you see crap like this, it's easy to see how some will fool themselves into thinking it's acceptable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    It's well understood within the public health sectors and such, but the public does not care, vs not realize it per se. And there's some trying their best to have people accept obesity as normal and healthy. It may be "normal" today by the shear numbers, but it sure as chit is not healthy.
    It just goes along with today's social norms that everyone is a winner, even the losers. The term "fat shaming" wasn't even a term until a few years ago. Now it's mainstream, everyone is perfectly healthy regardless of their weight as long as they are comfortable being obese. Heck, even Sports Illustrated has an obese cover model that you better not say anything about or you are a hater and a (fill in the blank) phobe. I got made fun of in junior high school for begin fat. Well, I decided I didn't like it so I started eating right and working out. And that healthy lifestyle has stuck with me ever since.
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