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While not solely the best ones, they seem to be the most consistent.
I am regretful that those goons at ADCO ruined my heavier "medium" profile Centurion FN...I wish I could have done more testing on that thing. Knowing now some of the details I would overlook back then, I think I could do it more justice now.
I've heard the whole "tapered bore" thing from both FN and HK before. Cut-down's have shot well, the precision community used to argue in circles about if a .299 "tight bore" mattered for 308, and some have said the taper is a byproduct of the CHF process to remove the mandrill and is just cleverly marketed as a benefit. Hard to say. I'm oldschool and say that profile matters too. At the very least, I have confidence in Jim and Monty and their prospective missions.
I dunno...the older I get and the more guns I complete, the more I/we overthink some of the unimportant voodoo and don't pay enough attention to the little things that stack up and bite us. Like I said...probably not as many bad barrels as there are bad builds, bad shooters, bad ammo, or just plain bad days at the range...but the barrel takes the blame.
Last edited by pointblank4445; 01-23-19 at 16:58.
For the record, I'm more than likely going to piece together an upper with a Criterion hybrid 14.5 middy. So maybe I'll be able to add that for a direct comparison in time.
I should have stated equal specifications traditional versus chf instead of QC.
On the tightness, as I have seen mentioned a few times, the tightest a chamber or bore can ever be is when the tooling is close to it's end of life.
Also, do any companies that offer chf and traditional barrels that are similar in materials and intended use ever sell the chf barrels for a lower cost than the traditional? I am not aware of any where that is the case.
I want a true 5.56 NATO spec chamber in my fighting rifle.
*** AMMO MATTERS ***
Just some more info:
Source: http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum...5608#post25608
I have heard of a complete Hodge Mod 2 upper shooting 4 MOA at 100 using 77 gr BHA, with multiple shooters trying, so lemons clearly exist.
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
老僧三十年前未參禪時、見山是山、見水是水、及至後夾親見知識、有箇入處、見山不是山、見水不是水、而今得箇體歇處、依然見山秪是山、見水秪是水。
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reference for all bargain hunters out there: https://aimsurplus.com/bear-creek-ar...dlength-barrel
Bear Creek Arsenal currently on sale from a reputable vendor. $49.95, 16" 416R stainless steel mid-length, government profile.
"All Finished Barrels go through a 100% Inspection Process. Inspections Equipment includes CMMs and Air Gauges for the Bores. BCA's expectations is that our Barrels, 16 inch or longer, will hold a 1.000" MOA at 100 yards with appropriate ammo and shooting techniques."
I'm really serious about just buying one of those out of stupid curiosity and giving it to somebody like pointblank4445 to test. probably going to be 4 MOA barrel, but who knows. i'm even surprised they can sell them for that cheap out of 416R steel.
Last edited by alx01; 01-24-19 at 01:45.
No idea. The story was told to me by a student who was with me in a Blowers class, who had witnessed this issue at a Defoor class he had attended a just a few weeks prior.
I also had a friend that was averaging 4 MOA out of his new SR-15 Mod 2, using various factory match ammo; using his handloads, he was able to get down to 2 MOA on occasion. He had to send that back to KAC, who said it was due to a burr at the gas port. I believe after coming back from KAC he was getting around an MOA with factory match ammo.
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
老僧三十年前未參禪時、見山是山、見水是水、及至後夾親見知識、有箇入處、見山不是山、見水不是水、而今得箇體歇處、依然見山秪是山、見水秪是水。
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