How Donald Trump could become the best President ever

[OldState]

And to think all this hysteria is manufactured. The division in this country is directly the result of the media as directed by the DNC and the left.

[ALCOAR]

This is probably the worst time you remember in your experience. That is a common POV.

But the 60s had the SLA actually kidnapping people like Hearst, taking down banks and having a BFD shootout with the LAPD live on the news where the house was eventually just burned down. We call Obama and Pelosi "radicals" when they are actually very much "establishment."

Radicals were the Weather Underground and a dozen other communist inspired terrorists groups whose aspirations made the KKK look like the local Rotary Club. In the 60s they were blowing shit up and killing people on a scale that few on the left are willing to engage in today, it's easy to say stupid shit on Twitter, it hard to come up with a large scale, cohesive plan to wage war on the establishment government and it's representatives. In 1968 the DNC in Chicago turned into full scale anarchy.

We had actual race wars, political wars, economic wars, generation wars and it was done with sticks, rocks, pipe bombs, tear gas, fire and live ammo on the streets of most major cities and broadcast on the news. Most of these events were at least peripherally related to the communist revolution in the United States, fortunately we won. Most today don't even understand it was an actual war.

There was a second civil war, we had it, it was 1969. Things are bad now, but they aren't 1969 bad. Not yet.

Great reply, and perspective, and time on this planet is everything the older I get. I watched the whole Patty Hearst documentary on TV awhile back and that is some truly wild stuff. Crazy to see the news coverage of the burning SLA house as well.

[Nightvisionary]

I think what you're posting would do it. And I really wonder how long an armed citizenry is going to tolerate our open southern border before certain individuals decide to put up their own wall--made of lead.

OP is no more than a mental masturbatory fantasy and the answer to that question from what I have seen with my own eyes is a long, looooong time. Just maybe until hell freezes over. 99% of AR owners are no different than Hot Rodders. They spend a lot of money dressing them up with all the accoutrements. They spend a whole lot more time talking about them and how fast they can go in a race. They spend some more time showing them off. In the end they will never leave the garage on a rainy day for fear of a little dirt or scratched paint. The "American" is an almost entirely extinct species.

[Nightvisionary]

This is probably the worst time you remember in your experience. That is a common POV.

But the 60s had the SLA actually kidnapping people like Hearst, taking down banks and having a BFD shootout with the LAPD live on the news where the house was eventually just burned down. We call Obama and Pelosi "radicals" when they are actually very much "establishment."

Radicals were the Weather Underground and a dozen other communist inspired terrorists groups whose aspirations made the KKK look like the local Rotary Club. In the 60s they were blowing shit up and killing people on a scale that few on the left are willing to engage in today, it's easy to say stupid shit on Twitter, it hard to come up with a large scale, cohesive plan to wage war on the establishment government and it's representatives. In 1968 the DNC in Chicago turned into full scale anarchy.

We had actual race wars, political wars, economic wars, generation wars and it was done with sticks, rocks, pipe bombs, tear gas, fire and live ammo on the streets of most major cities and broadcast on the news. Most of these events were at least peripherally related to the communist revolution in the United States, fortunately we won. Most today don't even understand it was an actual war.

There was a second civil war, we had it, it was 1969. Things are bad now, but they aren't 1969 bad. Not yet.

The reason things do not appear as bad as 1969 is because the state has fully solidified and codified by law it's control over the people. The principles those leftists radicals were fighting for in 1969 are now concepts deeply embedded into our government, educational, and media institutions. The leftists radicals are not kidnapping, blowing things up, and shooting people because they don't need to do those things anymore, they won. They won the war of ideas and the other side never even put an army onto the field.

[SteyrAUG]

I'm not quite so sure...

1969, people still trusted the media to give unbiased and objective reporting. If Walter Cronkite said it, you know it was true and not spun.

Absolutely not true. The Tet Offensive broke the back of the enemy and destroyed the VC, but Cronkite didn't see the results in the North and only saw defeat and took the opportunity to state that the war in Vietnam was "unwinnable."

[SteyrAUG]

The reason things do not appear as bad as 1969 is because the state has fully solidified and codified by law it's control over the people. The principles those leftists radicals were fighting for in 1969 are now concepts deeply embedded into our government, educational, and media institutions. The leftists radicals are not kidnapping, blowing things up, and shooting people because they don't need to do those things anymore, they won. They won the war of ideas and the other side never even put an army onto the field.

There is some truth to that. The black students that took hostages at gunpoint at Cornell were able to get their demands implemented and included into the system. It is now seen as a case of student democracy.

http://www.calebrossiter.com/cornell.html

So yeah, there is some of that.

But we still have a cultural war, but it's being fought with Twitter rather than with pipe bombs. Things could be better, but things could be worse.

[soulezoo]

Absolutely not true. The Tet Offensive broke the back of the enemy and destroyed the VC, but Cronkite didn't see the results in the North and only saw defeat and took the opportunity to state that the war in Vietnam was "unwinnable."

Also, Cronkite, as he admitted in his autobiography, spun things a lot to suit his agenda. He was positioning himself to run for President and used his place in the media to not only gain trust of the populace, but control the narrative. His problem was that while he was definitely popular, he did not have any real backing within the Democrat party elites.

[La26]

At least highlight what you changed.

Yes, please. What he said ^^^^^

[titsonritz]

But the 60s had the SLA actually kidnapping people like Hearst, taking down banks and having a BFD shootout with the LAPD live on the news where the house was eventually just burned down.

The SLA did not become active until '73.

[Grand58742]

Absolutely not true. The Tet Offensive broke the back of the enemy and destroyed the VC, but Cronkite didn't see the results in the North and only saw defeat and took the opportunity to state that the war in Vietnam was "unwinnable."

Vietnam was unwinnable when he stated that. The US was never going to "win" that war by doing what needed to be done.

Different subject, different thread, different time. Doesn't change the fact the media was pretty unbiased in those days and didn't spin a story to fit a narrative. What would have happened to CBS News in 1969 had they done the same slipshod reporting on Ferguson that nearly every media outlet did when it happened? Or during the Treyvon Martin shooting? The blatant and intentional misrepresentation of the events to fit a political narrative would never have been allowed back then.

Now? That's what people want to hear so they can feel outraged. They don't want to hear the truth, they want to hear whatever convinces them they are right.