Pelosi, gun emergency..

[Norseman]

Whatever.

The Trump thing just postpones things, the end game has always been the same. They want all the guns. But, hasn't that always been the case? Not happening though, even if you stopped production of everything gun related RIGHT NOW it would still be like trying to bail water out of the Titanic with a shot glass. That genie is out of the bottle.

I am not going to play the panic game anymore. Personally, I think that's what these people want us to do.

If we are going to pull the band aid off, now is a good as time as any. Otherwise, just another day in D.C..

[flenna]

Declaring a Constitutional Amendment null and void is not within the same scope of building a border wall. Suddenly millions of gun owning Americans are criminals and thousands more in the gun industry out of work? I know that is their goal but I don’t see a President doing it by decree.

[glocktogo]

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...rgency-on-guns

My take: If they're even talking about it they will do it. We are literally ONE presidential election away from losing our gun rights. This is the beginning of the terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day for gun owners.

BUY YOUR STUFF NOW.

I don't think Pelosi is plugged in enough to recognize just how close this country is to willful disobedience. In this case, one is a Constitutional protection (2nd Amendment), the other is a Constitutional requirement (defense of our nation). Please Fräulein Pelosi, suggest to the next Democrat POTUS that they should use the power of the executive office to nullify the Bill of Rights. Do it, and see what happens.

[Doc Safari]

Declaring a Constitutional Amendment null and void is not within the same scope of building a border wall. Suddenly millions of gun owning Americans are criminals and thousands more in the gun industry out of work? I know that is their goal but I don’t see a President doing it by decree.

That's easy. The next Democrat president doesn't go so far as to declare the 2A null and void, he just issues a directive to ATF that all new 4473's are to be sent to them for registration.

Think it won't happen? Remember how they "suddenly" decided that purchasing two semiautomatic weapons at the same time in border states required similar reporting like multiple handgun purchases? Congress didn't pass that one, did they?

Once registration is complete and has been in effect for a few years, that president simply revisits the issue and says, "Gee Whiz. Registration didn't reduce crime, so I'm declaring another emergency that all (fill in the blank) are subject to confiscation under the (fill in the blank) Act. You have 90 days to turn yours in to the local police or face terrorism charges."

[glocktogo]

That's easy. The next Democrat president doesn't go so far as to declare the 2A null and void, he just issues a directive to ATF that all new 4473's are to be sent to them for registration.

Think it won't happen? Remember how they "suddenly" decided that purchasing two semiautomatic weapons at the same time in border states required similar reporting like multiple handgun purchases? Congress didn't pass that one, did they?

Once registration is complete and has been in effect for a few years, that president simply revisits the issue and says, "Gee Whiz. Registration didn't reduce crime, so I'm declaring another emergency that all (fill in the blank) are subject to confiscation under the (fill in the blank) Act. You have 90 days to turn yours in to the local police or face terrorism charges."

Because sending 4473's to them wouldn't actually be registration. It would precipitate "gun exchange parties" and many more online WTT ads.

I'm not one who really cares what the .gov thinks I have. I've never paid a dime extra for a gun because a 4473 wasn't required. But I have a lot of guns that have no paper trail back to me whatsoever. That's just 40 years of being a gun owner.

[Doc Safari]

Because sending 4473's to them wouldn't actually be registration. It would precipitate "gun exchange parties" and many more online WTT ads.

I'm not one who really cares what the .gov thinks I have. I've never paid a dime extra for a gun because a 4473 wasn't required. But I have a lot of guns that have no paper trail back to me whatsoever. That's just 40 years of being a gun owner.

More and more states are passing "mandatory background check" laws, though. It wouldn't be a stretch to say something could happen at the federal level too.

I'm not at all saying it would be easy to implement or that it wouldn't ultimately fail...just that they have the chutzpah to attempt it. And I'm sure the average gun owner with a mortgage and 2 1/2 kids would be pressured by the Little Missiz to comply so their nice new house doesn't get SWATted or the dog stomped on by jack-booted thugs. Oh, the humanity.

Of course, the neckbeard that has spent the last 20 years talking about insurgency on the innernetz is going to be loading magazines and will probably go full bubba and accidentally shoot the school crossing guard.

It's not a pretty scenario. Freedom has been dying a slow death in this country for a long time and it ain't gonna be restored quickly.

[Circle_10]

"And This is How Civil Wars Begin..."

I've made similar comments there as well.
I'm thinking the "war" is just going to end up being a bunch of guys too scared of the consequences of being caught with their stuff to actually do anything with it, be it defending life and liberty or just staying proficient with it via practice.
I'm afraid of becoming one of those guys, because like most everyone else here, I have a lot to lose.

[Adrenaline_6]

I've made similar comments there as well.
I'm thinking the "war" is just going to end up being a bunch of guys too scared of the consequences of being caught with their stuff to actually do anything with it, be it defending life and liberty or just staying proficient with it via practice.
I'm afraid of becoming one of those guys, because like most everyone else here, I have a lot to lose.

In retrospect though, to them, they have a lot more to lose then we do. Once that line is crossed, there is no going back and life as we know it ceases to exist for everyone. Suck level = 100. They don't want it anymore than we do, because in that environment, politicians fall to the bottom of the totem pole.

[Dist. Expert 26]

I've made similar comments there as well.
I'm thinking the "war" is just going to end up being a bunch of guys too scared of the consequences of being caught with their stuff to actually do anything with it, be it defending life and liberty or just staying proficient with it via practice.
I'm afraid of becoming one of those guys, because like most everyone else here, I have a lot to lose.

Most people don't want to be the first one to jump, but there are enough people in this country with nothing to lose that someone will make the first move. After that, things just cascade.

Revolutions are always impossible until they aren't.

[chuckman]

I want to see McConnell pull a McConnell and just put It out there on the record to see who in the Senate would be in favor of declaring a national emergency with regard to second amendment/guns, like he did with that stupid Green New Deal.