Pelosi, gun emergency..

[ABNAK]

Private citizens are already decades behind due to artillery & aircraft just to name a couple of things on the tech side of things alone.

One thing that hasn't changed in hundreds of years though is families, loved ones, and the fact that everyone has a home they like to go to at night. Just sayin'.....

[ABNAK]

The vast majority of hunters and firearms owners in generally have zero idea of what firearms ownership means in terms of the 2nd Amendment and any enlightenment typically repulses them.

While there are some .gov that wouldn't engage in confiscation, the harrassnent by LEO's against firearms owners completely in compliance with current laws doesn't seem to indicate there would be some vast mutiny when those same citizens are in violation.

Perhaps, but they gotta live somewhere…...

[jsbhike]

One thing that hasn't changed in hundreds of years though is families, loved ones, and the fact that everyone has a home they like to go to at night. Just sayin'.....

This gets in to the connection and affinity angle though.

Take the average person of African descent. They don't bring up slavery that existed in Africa prior to 1654 or even up to the present day as a problem. They don't even bring up Anthony Johnson, a man of African origin who became new world slave owner #1 in 1654 as a problem, nor any of the other people of African descent who owned slaves in the new world.

Caucasians engaging in the same wrongful activity? Whole different story.

It is a common theme. Spousal abuse comes to mind. Democrats being bad when they do antigun Crap while excuses are made for republicans the exact same thing.

On average on outdoor forums, wrongful acts by police tend bring out the apologists. They had to obey orders, somehow it was the private citizens fault, anger and resentment over video being released(but not that the incident happened) is the norm.

Perhaps there is a change in outlook based on the latest in Houston, but if there is it is definitely a recent thing.

[prepare]

she continues to prove what a pathetic, childish, immature, emotional, irrational creature she really is. she doesn't give a rats ass about the U.S., the constitution, or her oath. All she wants is to get her her way by any means necessary at the expense of whatever and whoever or how manny/how much it takes.

[ABNAK]

This gets in to the connection and affinity angle though.

Take the average person of African descent. They don't bring up slavery that existed in Africa prior to 1654 or even up to the present day as a problem. They don't even bring up Anthony Johnson, a man of African origin who became new world slave owner #1 in 1654 as a problem, nor any of the other people of African descent who owned slaves in the new world.

Caucasians engaging in the same wrongful activity? Whole different story.

It is a common theme. Spousal abuse comes to mind. Democrats being bad when they do antigun Crap while excuses are made for republicans the exact same thing.

On average on outdoor forums, wrongful acts by police tend bring out the apologists. They had to obey orders, somehow it was the private citizens fault, anger and resentment over video being released(but not that the incident happened) is the norm.

Perhaps there is a change in outlook based on the latest in Houston, but if there is it is definitely a recent thing.

My point was not that they'd do their jobs so they can support those families and go home at night, it was that those loved ones and homes are their soft underbelly. While I certainly do not advocate anything so unseemly you'd be a fool to believe that if gun owners were being steamrolled across this country that there wouldn't be some ugly, morally questionable "payback" taking place. Oh well, too bad so sad. You reap what you sow so to speak.

Internecine struggles are some of the most cutthroat throughout history. While you can summon hate for people who don't look like you or speak a different language (like in a normal WWII/Vietnam/Afghanistan scenario), there is something about the perceived (or real) betrayal by fellow countrymen that REALLY stokes hatred and vengeance.

What was the most costly war in U.S. history? Yep, even with the relatively archaic weapons in use at the time no other war has surpassed it, even WWII. Keep in mind that this was an era where some shred of chivalry/decency existed. All that Moral High Road shit is l-o-n-g gone these days.

[jsbhike]

I am not saying it wouldn't happen at all, but I do doubt it happening on any kind of large scale.

There are an ever growing number of instances of misconduct by police, prosecutors, and judges that have harmed or even taken lives where the perps received no punishment. Obviously some of the victims/families were thugs, so a settlement was a positive if for no other reason than capital for their vices. But not all of them fit that thug description and frankly it surprises me that none of the offenders (at least that I am aware of) have suffered retaliation from their victims or their family/friends.

[Peshawar]

I think this boils down to a simple truth that I haven’t heard reported in the MSM as of yet.

-Trump is clumsily trying to protect US borders from being invaded by people who are non-citizens breaking our laws.

And in response, Pelosi has openly threatened to nullify the Second Amendment of our Constitution. So because of his desire to stop non-citizens from successfully completing a criminal act, she believes the appropriate response is to punish citizens with the removal of their rights.


Yet I haven’t seen this laid out clearly in the media. It’s insanity.

This type of rhetoric is supposed to fire up her base supporters? Their political calculus concludes that this is what their voters desire and think is fair? What country do we live in at this point?

[glocktogo]

Yeah, disobedience to a pot law means some stoner defiantly burning a doobie to f**k The Man. Yeah dude!

Disobedience to a sweeping attempt to ban guns? Well...…... (hint: it ain't quite the same as that stoner "sticking it to The Man" with his doobie)

Always remember folks, freaking ALCOHOL was Constitutionally prohibited at one time. Think about that for a minute, let it sink in. Then mull over just how well that worked out.

Oh I get it, but remember that the 34' NFA Act is a direct result of all the shooting that went on over alcohol. Now imagine if Prohibition were about guns. That's all I'm saying.

I am not saying it wouldn't happen at all, but I do doubt it happening on any kind of large scale.

There are an ever growing number of instances of misconduct by police, prosecutors, and judges that have harmed or even taken lives where the perps received no punishment. Obviously some of the victims/families were thugs, so a settlement was a positive if for no other reason than capital for their vices. But not all of them fit that thug description and frankly it surprises me that none of the offenders (at least that I am aware of) have suffered retaliation from their victims or their family/friends.

All it took was blowing up one federal building in the Heartland for both sides to back off in the mid-90's. Some of the many innocent victims in that retaliatory attack were the young family members of government agents. Personally I'd prefer we never revisit that ugly time in America. I just wish people like Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein, all those leftist pols in CA and the PNW, etc., felt the same way.

[docsherm]

Oh I get it, but remember that the 34' NFA Act is a direct result of all the shooting that went on over alcohol. Now imagine if Prohibition were about guns. That's all I'm saying.



All it took was blowing up one federal building in the Heartland for both sides to back off in the mid-90's. Some of the many innocent victims in that retaliatory attack were the young family members of government agents. Personally I'd prefer we never revisit that ugly time in America. I just wish people like Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein, all those leftist pols in CA and the PNW, etc., felt the same way.

Both comments are spot on. People need to really think about their actions and the future it will bring.

[glocktogo]

Both comments are spot on. People need to really think about their actions and the future it will bring.

It literally pains my heart, that these leftist pols can't grasp that their words and deeds come with unacceptable levels of blowback. It's like George Soros earlier this week lamenting that right wing, nationalist extremism is in the rise in Europe. Well you dumbass, stop pissing on their heads and openly attacking them! You're literally a recruiting poster for those people!