I know he has ruffled some feathers, obviously at some time or another he's pissed in Stickman's and officerx's Post Toasties, but is that the only reason you think he is using the business model he is using?
Has he enlarged his work force, or, is he taking steps to position LaRue in the market so he can keep his employees employed? Some guys, even abrasive guys, think that way.
ETA: Don't know the guy from Adam, but he's onto something, I'm a solid customer. Wouldn't be except the MBT and Ultimate Upper got me started.
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I have a feeling competition is what's driving him to compete like this and he has the machine shop to put up a good fight. You now have a lot of options for quality optic mounts and rails that have to be eating into his sales some. Looks like he is preping for a good fight. You have the optic mounts that he dropped the price on, the triggers which he has really dropped in price, the ultimate upper kits which have been discounted and now these rails.
Now if they would only drop their complete rifles down some price wise.
Some of you guys have been around a while, some have more inside information than others. But, remember one thing-you only get one side of the whole ML hate on THIS SITE. Expand your horizons and don't piggy back on the hate. While I don't know all of the origins, there are no angels on either side, regardless of what they spew, especially here-that includes anyone associated with THIS SITE.
And yes I've had breakfast and a coffee
GET IN YOUR BUBBLE!
It could be a shift in strategy and direction, based on more than a single event. Mark and I aren't personal friends, we're on friendly terms, based on our past working relationship and our common stance on a few things. I don't know his business model, nor would I speak on his behalf. I have respect for his decades of experience and innovation, I don't have cause to dislike him on a personal or professional level, just the opposite.
He is not the enemy. From a casual industry observer's standpoint, LT may seem to have quieted down in the last 4 or 5 years, but that time is now the past, Mark's new efforts and push into markets and segments he previously didn't operate in seems to be very good indications of a shift, not something I would, or am capable of doing overnight.
Either way, the party that benefits from this is the end users. We have more options, higher quality and less cost in triggers and hand guards. If anyone was happy paying $240 for a cast triggers, let this be a pleasant awakening that a wire EDM trigger can be had for less, from a reputable US based company with a long list of accomplishments and real innovation. His new LAT hand guards can be seen in the same light, they now compete with our RHF hand guards lol, so I'm not oblivious to its impact on our business, but customers can choose for themselves, and there is enough business for everyone to compete and thrive.
I'd discard any notions of quality and purported innovation based on a name, each product should speak for itself without the aid of its brand. The same goes for us, folks have said whatever we make, they'd buy it. To us, it's a compliment, a responsibility and pressure to live up to the ever higher bar, it is not a sign to abuse the customers' trust. I believe Mark understands this very well and lives by the same principles.
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Roger Wang
Forward Controls Design
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People on the internet are weird. They get wrapped up in a decade+ old slap fight between two past middle aged rich guys who own manufacturing companies and choose sides like it's the Civil War and dig in. Buy your LaRue or your Geissele, or buy both and live your life.
Before last month, the only thing I ever bought from Larue were those index clips for like $15. Jumped on the MBT last month and really happy so far. For all intents, it feels really close to the SD-C based on 1 range session and some dry fire. I think the wide trigger face, helps it feel like the straight SD-C trigger. The MBT is going to be my new standard since I can buy 3 of them for the cost of an SD-C.
I bought an Noveske NSR rail recently and forgot how silly it was to time a damn barrel nut. I would like more info on the Larue rails. Weight of the 10" but also the actual length. Could you fit a direct thread suppressor on the 10" rail with a 10.5" barrel?
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