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    Quote Originally Posted by Tx_Aggie View Post
    I had no idea...good to know.

    It looks like they did donate to her campaign in 2010, 2012, and 2014. The "Surefire LLC PAC" hasn't donated to any campaign since 2014:

    https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pac...768&cycle=2010

    Loretta Sanchez

    http://www.ontheissues.org/CA/Lorett...un_Control.htm

    https://www.politifact.com/californi...-gun-liabilit/

    Sanchez has a D rating from the NRA, but has also taken flak from the Anti-gun crowd for supporting protections for the firearms industry from frivolous law suits.

    It would be interesting to know why the folks at Surefire thought it wise to support her, but I doubt they'll be talking much about it.

    The Surefire memes are rolling on FB now..

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    Send them a email to tell them how you feel. I did.
    https://www.benchmade.com/contacts/
    Buy It Cheap!
    Stack It Deep!

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    You pay for access. These companies are in states where a politician you want to see them support will never win. If they want to have the ear of someone, this is how you do it.

    It sucks. It does not mean that they are ideologically opposed to guns or that they support these restrictions. It could very well be that they want to sway them another direction on a related issue.

    I love that the gun community forgave Donny Trump for giving Hilary money based on absolutely no proof of him being a gun guy, but are willing to throw companies under the bus that have no public anti-gun stance, are kept in business by people that are pro-gun, and who donated money.

    Hell Surefire sells more suppressors that are purely for fun civilian use than they sell that are intended for military use. No extra hoopla like so many body armor companies make you go through. Just what the law requires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post
    The problem with Ruger has literally been buried.

    S&W went under, largely due to their shenanigans, so always worth trying.
    Yes and I think there was backlash at the time on both firms. S&W had hard times and was sold to a smaller US company so I see no reason to ostracize them for decisions made by different owner.

    Ruger management made dramatic changes after Bill was 6ft under. 20-30 rd mags, AR pattern rifle, explosion of semiauto pistol models. Again I see no reason to hold Ruger of today at blame for words and policies of old Bill. Ruger at the time didn’t cater to the newer shooting crowd so sales were not impacted directly but they had massive missed opportunity as evidence by their sales since making changes.

    Boycotts do seem effective but it may take many years for pig headed owners/mgmt to change.
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    You do know those guns were to be destroyed regardless who did it, yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    You do know those guns were to be destroyed regardless who did it, yes?
    They could have refused or even earned points by pointing out how they turned the PD down on that. Would have kept people wrongly assuming they were pro 2nd amendment too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    You do know those guns were to be destroyed regardless who did it, yes?
    Although I did pour one out for that poor SKS, yeah, I think most people do understand that part.

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    My question: Why are you upset at destroying guns used in crimes? They aren’t rounding up guns from gun stores.

    These guns have been used in homicides or robberies or dope game. IMO they are tainted.

    Some agencies resell, some destroy. Depends on policy or state law.
    I have seen guns scrapped and guns resold. I have even seen some Berettas repurposed.

    I really don’t see how this is a 2A infringement any more than shitcanning a car or reselling it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    My question: Why are you upset at destroying guns used in crimes? They aren’t rounding up guns from gun stores.

    These guns have been used in homicides or robberies or dope game. IMO they are tainted.

    Some agencies resell, some destroy. Depends on policy or state law.
    I have seen guns scrapped and guns resold. I have even seen some Berettas repurposed.

    I really don’t see how this is a 2A infringement any more than shitcanning a car or reselling it is.
    I don't see tainted guns. It's an object. It has no moral compass. As an Eastern European Jew Ive owned lots of WW2 German guns and have no problem with the gun. It does not represent the user. I enjoy owning them.

    That being said I don't have a huge problem with them destroying guns in this situation. I know a guy who works in a gunstore, former cop, very pro 2A but at his part time job at a machine shop they were cutting up NJSP HK P7. Not hos fault and the company is indifferent to it. Not because OMG ITS A GUN but because they have a contact with NJSP and sometimes it's guns

    My problem is with their donations.
    Last edited by Arik; 02-22-19 at 20:51.

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    Oh my goodness, you all realize these donations are usually bribes and that you will be hard pressed to find companies who don’t donate to people you do not like.

    I have given up trying even trying to fret over the injustices of the world

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