The Fake Native American Now Wants Reparations for Slavery

[NWPilgrim]

Just as a point of clarification, Lying Liz identifies as “American Indian”. I think she is the lone person in that group. Never met an indigenous person who called themselves that. But she can be that if she wants, just don’t try to associate it with any real tribal group.

I am all for freeing anyone suffering under slavery and making the guilty bastards pay for it. Including human trafficking. It only exists with govt acceptance.

[Firefly]

Yeah. Indians are from India. Most people just say First Nation, Native, or idenify by tribe.

It was touched upon and is true: The First Nations weren’t all just getting along. America at one time was not unlike a balkanized nation where you had warring tribes and factions with fragile alliances predicated on marriages and dowries. Not totally unlike Western Europe just with less technology.

Natives took sides in the so-called Indian Wars. So there was a lot of grey going around. Massacres went both ways but what killed off most of the population was foreign disease.

Africa and “Africans” have no real excuses.
And truth be told, so many black folks have white in them now that if it weren’t for archaic one drop laws; you could barely even call them black.

Case in point. And know this one girl who looks like an Aryan Nazi Goddess. Like she could wear the horn helmet and be some SS poster girl. Blonde, blue eyed, tall. But...

Her great grandparents on both sides are black. Like her biological grandparents. Her mother is half black. But she just turned out that way. Her brother looks more brown but has white features.

Yet legally she is black.

So again, so much is predicated on BS

[Honu]

black death brought to Europe from Asia !!! they need to make reparations

and China has the biggest wall in the world what if it kept my ancestors out ! I want something for that !


ironic enough my friends that were black in the Caribbean could never figure out blacks in the US that had it so freaking good and not realize it was the Spanish and their own people that sold them out ? and my friends had a 3rd and 4th grade education that was it ! yet were so much more aware of history then almost anyone I talk with in the US ?

[The_War_Wagon]

I want reparations, for a LIFETIME of being subjected to the commercials & speeches of every dumbass democrap - from Eugene McGovern, to the Obamessiah & the Occasional-Cortex.

A a bazillion, jillion, kadillion dollars, sounds like a good STARTING amount.

[26 Inf]

I raised three black kids, how much do I get?

My wife is at least 1/16 Cherokee, could be I'll be even better off.

I know where my vote is going, money talks, bs walks.

Just kidding, this notion has always been one of the stupidest ideas floated. Maybe 100 - 125 years ago when some of the folks actually directly impacted would have benefited, but today, no way.

[SteyrAUG]

So again, so much is predicated on BS

That is because race is more of a human visual qualifier than a genetic classification. At the genetic level, race barely exists and there are huge genetic exceptions. People who look like they should belong in Group A actually have more genetic commonality with those in Group B and vice versa.

The amount of melanin, or lack of, in your skin is little more than an evolutionary sun tan. Everything else is for better or worse, mostly a matter of culture.

[flenna]

Just kidding, this notion has always been one of the stupidest ideas floated. Maybe 100 - 125 years ago when some of the folks actually directly impacted would have benefited, but today, no way.

This is just a stunt for the ComDems to garner votes. This is just the beginning. As the ComDem 2020 candidates try to one up each other it will be all:

1. Who can promise to give away the most "free stuff".
2. Who hates President Trump the most.

[26 Inf]

This is just a stunt for the ComDems to garner votes. This is just the beginning. As the ComDem 2020 candidates try to one up each other it will be all:

1. Who can promise to give away the most "free stuff".
2. Who hates President Trump the most.

Understand, and agree. To an extent. I don't think she is going to win the hearts of the run-of-the-mill Democrats with that stuff.

I have one sister who is for the most part a feminist, pro-choice, tree-hugger. Even she thinks this is a looney idea.

[ramairthree]

That is because race is more of a human visual qualifier than a genetic classification. At the genetic level, race barely exists and there are huge genetic exceptions. People who look like they should belong in Group A actually have more genetic commonality with those in Group B and vice versa.

The amount of melanin, or lack of, in your skin is little more than an evolutionary sun tan. Everything else is for better or worse, mostly a matter of culture.

No.

Genetically, the term race is useless. We lump people from massive geographical distances into the same “race.”

Frankly, if we were to apply the same standards of genus, species, and sub species to humans as we have other mammals, for example, wolf like canids,
You could make the case for two or three species and several sub species of humans. Maybe even two or three geni.

Skin color is not that significant an issue. Skin color is as you note little more than a visual qualifier. We all know white people and black people with skin tones that are not in accordance with the concept of race.

Medical, life expectancy, and several other actually significant factors exist.

Just like they do for several genetically distinct groups of wolves, jackals, Coyotes, African hunting dogs, etc.

Like them, We all have the same number of chromosome pairs.

We all come from the same place and we all meet the same end.

But pretending for religious and political reasons where the majority of your genes originated from and experienced pressure from over thousands of years had no effect other than skin tone is ignorance of child like simplicity.

It effects what diseases you are prone to. How you metabolize alcohol. Your likelihood of fast vs slow twitch muscle fiber and mitnochondrial density. What meds will best treat your high blood pressure. How devastating untreated blood pressure will be on your body. Shoe/foot morphology. Propensity for addiction. What levels of certain chemotherapeutic are effective in children. Possibly the transmission rate of HIV at equal exposures. Propensity for high cholesterol, obesity, and heart disease. And much more. All not related to culture. And other repeatedly verifiable via multiple means of objective data that are verboten to discuss. And any MD, Ph.D., physical anthropologist, psychologist, etc. who does not toe the line publically meets with PNG status. But discussions in private are much different.

You really think culture explains why Somoans are about 30 times more likely to be in the NFL than their population numbers would account for?

[kwelz]

No.

Genetically, the term race is useless. We lump people from massive geographical distances into the same “race.”

Frankly, if we were to apply the same standards of genus, species, and sub species to humans as we have other mammals, for example, wolf like canids,
You could make the case for two or three species and several sub species of humans. Maybe even two or three geni.

Skin color is not that significant an issue. Skin color is as you note little more than a visual qualifier. We all know white people and black people with skin tones that are not in accordance with the concept of race.

Medical, life expectancy, and several other actually significant factors exist.

Just like they do for several genetically distinct groups of wolves, jackals, Coyotes, African hunting dogs, etc.

Like them, We all have the same number of chromosome pairs.

We all come from the same place and we all meet the same end.

But pretending for religious and political reasons where the majority of your genes originated from and experienced pressure from over thousands of years had no effect other than skin tone is ignorance of child like simplicity.

It effects what diseases you are prone to. How you metabolize alcohol. Your likelihood of fast vs slow twitch muscle fiber and mitnochondrial density. What meds will best treat your high blood pressure. How devastating untreated blood pressure will be on your body. Shoe/foot morphology. Propensity for addiction. What levels of certain chemotherapeutic are effective in children. Possibly the transmission rate of HIV at equal exposures. Propensity for high cholesterol, obesity, and heart disease. And much more. All not related to culture. And other repeatedly verifiable via multiple means of objective data that are verboten to discuss. And any MD, Ph.D., physical anthropologist, psychologist, etc. who does not toe the line publically meets with PNG status. But discussions in private are much different.

You really think culture explains why Somoans are about 30 times more likely to be in the NFL than their population numbers would account for?

Those overall minor differences don't account for enough to make anyone in the world a different race from any other human. It is simple genetic diversity due to environmental pressures. The changes would have to be far greater to even come close to determining a different race.

Heck we see more genetic changes in most ring species than there is among human beings yet they are all still the same species.
Scientists have had issue with the term race for over 100 years. It is a social construct mainly driven by political agendas. Essentially so called races are nothing more than a proxy term for the normal genetic mutations you see in any species living in multiple biomes with greatly differing evolutionary pressures.

TLDR: No. There is no level of genetic diversity in the human population to qualify anyone as a sub species or different species from any other Homo Sapien.