The Fake Native American Now Wants Reparations for Slavery

[SteyrAUG]

No.

Genetically, the term race is useless. We lump people from massive geographical distances into the same “race.”

Frankly, if we were to apply the same standards of genus, species, and sub species to humans as we have other mammals, for example, wolf like canids,
You could make the case for two or three species and several sub species of humans. Maybe even two or three geni.

Skin color is not that significant an issue. Skin color is as you note little more than a visual qualifier. We all know white people and black people with skin tones that are not in accordance with the concept of race.

Medical, life expectancy, and several other actually significant factors exist.

Just like they do for several genetically distinct groups of wolves, jackals, Coyotes, African hunting dogs, etc.

Like them, We all have the same number of chromosome pairs.

We all come from the same place and we all meet the same end.

But pretending for religious and political reasons where the majority of your genes originated from and experienced pressure from over thousands of years had no effect other than skin tone is ignorance of child like simplicity.

It effects what diseases you are prone to. How you metabolize alcohol. Your likelihood of fast vs slow twitch muscle fiber and mitnochondrial density. What meds will best treat your high blood pressure. How devastating untreated blood pressure will be on your body. Shoe/foot morphology. Propensity for addiction. What levels of certain chemotherapeutic are effective in children. Possibly the transmission rate of HIV at equal exposures. Propensity for high cholesterol, obesity, and heart disease. And much more. All not related to culture. And other repeatedly verifiable via multiple means of objective data that are verboten to discuss. And any MD, Ph.D., physical anthropologist, psychologist, etc. who does not toe the line publically meets with PNG status. But discussions in private are much different.

You really think culture explains why Somoans are about 30 times more likely to be in the NFL than their population numbers would account for?

Ok, I glossed over some things, wasn't trying to write a thesis.

By "At the genetic level, race barely exists" I meant we can identify a few broad categories of what people call race.

As for Samoans you are correct, that isn't simply cultural values, there is a lot of environmental influence built up over thousands of years. Again, I was just trying to hit the broad strokes and I think we are more or less on the same sheet of music.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Is anyone that would be voting based on the reparations really going to change their vote.? Maybe vote versus not voting- and this is just insurance to try to get the black vote out if a white candidate gets the nomination.

Or it's just as simple as the usual virtue signaling with other people's money.

[Doc Safari]

In my college anthropology class the professor asked us to determine how many races there are. No one ever came up with an answer.

[docsherm]

In my college anthropology class the professor asked us to determine how many races there are. No one ever came up with an answer.

Uh..... 3

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...=1550944582899

[TexHill]

Uh..... 3

There's only one race, the human race.

[ramairthree]

Those overall minor differences don't account for enough to make anyone in the world a different race from any other human. It is simple genetic diversity due to environmental pressures. The changes would have to be far greater to even come close to determining a different race.

Heck we see more genetic changes in most ring species than there is among human beings yet they are all still the same species.
Scientists have had issue with the term race for over 100 years. It is a social construct mainly driven by political agendas. Essentially so called races are nothing more than a proxy term for the normal genetic mutations you see in any species living in multiple biomes with greatly differing evolutionary pressures.

TLDR: No. There is no level of genetic diversity in the human population to qualify anyone as a sub species or different species from any other Homo Sapien.

Race is not useful classification. There is as much variation in any race as there is between races.
Sort of. Even using the flawed concept of race, just using Asian, sub Saharan African, and European as groups, comparing ten loci, that is true about a third of the time. 100 loci, a fifth, 1000 loci, a tenth, etc. but these are weird ways to group people.
Basically, if two groups of sub Saharan Africans have more generic diversity between them than between any other group of geographically distinct humans on the planet, why are they lumped into the same race.

However, within some other mammal classification systems, some very subtle distinctions were made.

Let’s say the coyote was first scientifically described a couple of hundred years ago. With about 18-21 sub-species described since. That is one of seven to nine species, and three genera, with some species having even more sub species, in wolf like canids.

The criteria used to define many of these, at the time many were defined,
Could have been applied to a group of humans on an artic coast vs an island off the coast of Europe vs the oldest continent.

We went full retard with animals, while Using the stupid race concept for humans.

My point is the same standards were not applied. Distinct human populations get lumped into the same race. I think it was a combination of we humans are so special with religious, social, political implications and an over tendency of scientists wanting to get dibs on an animal genus, species, or sub specifies.

Hundreds of years later, we have more tools at our disposal. A species of canine may actually be more of a distinct monophyletic clade within a species, the genetic homogenicity of some subspecies may be high, more similar to the morphological plasticity seen in breeds, etc.

race is useless scientifically,
It was not the same level of description used in at least the wolf like canid classifications. I am not familiar enough with the fox like canids, south Amercian canids, or monotypic taxa- or other biological families, to recall off the top of my head other genera, species, and sub species all that are offspring producing with the same number of chromosome pairs.

But distinct human populations were never classified to the degree of the Wolf like canids. To the point a physical anthropologist can have a much easier time identifying and classifying old human remains than a zoologist can with some canid remains.

The various breeds of domestic canines have like 95% genetic homogeneity but can be identified correctly 99% of the time with microsatellite markers.

Yet we had none of this stuff when many species were described and classified.

Somehow some previous hominid fused a pair of chromosomes and gave our ancestors the winning lottery ticket compared to great apes. Then we started hogging the winnings about two hundred thousand years ago.

[Averageman]

So do you have to prove that your family came over on a slave ship, or are we just going to cut checks to everyone who is or identifies as "African American?"
I'm kind of curious because I'm pretty sure there are more than a few folks who've moved here to escape poverty and to improve their station in life, you might be astonished at that if you believe the rhetoric of the left, but it's a fact.

[Firefly]

Uh..... 3

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...=1550944582899

Yep. Technically 4. Sorta.

We have these things called Alleles. You can even tell race by bone.

And the races are all different and unique. Your genetic code is a roadmap to who you really are. Cognition. Physicality. Susceptibility to illness and defect.

Work in forensics a minute. You will see how unique humans really are. We should treat each other well, but to dismiss science and say "there is only one race" is kinda lame.

[docsherm]

There's only one race, the human race.

You need to but a smiling face or something when being funny or sarcastic. If not people will think you are serious.

[docsherm]

Yep. Technically 4. Sorta.

We have these things called Alleles. You can even tell race by bone.

And the races are all different and unique. Your genetic code is a roadmap to who you really are. Cognition. Physicality. Susceptibility to illness and defect.

Work in forensics a minute. You will see how unique humans really are. We should treat each other well, but to dismiss science and say "there is only one race" is kinda lame.

I have heard that. But I think the jury is still out on the 4th one.

But you are correct. From purely a scientific level there are many differances.