ISIS bride Hoda Muthana's family files lawsuit against Trump

[ABNAK]

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Example: Let's say Dad said "I don't want to be a diplomat anymore" in March. The ISIS bitch is born in May. Dad doesn't file for naturalization until June. What was the parents' status between March and June? THAT will be how her citizenship is determined.

I'm no legal expert but something tells me that the government wouldn't allow a "limbo" or "gray area" to exist (one would think anyway).

[kwelz]

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Example: Let's say Dad said "I don't want to be a diplomat anymore" in March. The ISIS bitch is born in May. Dad doesn't file for naturalization until June. What was the parents' status between March and June? THAT will be how her citizenship is determined.

I'm no legal expert but something tells me that the government wouldn't allow a "limbo" or "gray area" to exist (one would think anyway).

According to Kati (the attorney I mentioned above) those gray areas can and do exist and that is the rub here. There is also some question as to when he started the whole process. Did say months beforehand that his end date was X and he wanted to have the ball rolling then? Again I assume there is documentation somewhere for all of this. I just don't know who would have it or where it would be. Hell I don't even care if she is a citizen or not. It would be a lot easier if she wasn't, then we can just tell her to enjoy making sand castles in the desert. But we don't get to ignore the law because we don't like it. That would make us like the libtards that you and (believe it or not) I hate so much.

[NWPilgrim]

If she was a US citizen at birth then she should have the birth certificate and most likely got a passport at some time. Same for her folks, it should not be a huge glossed over mystery whether they are all citizens or not. The fact that no one states whether she definitely makes it look like she probably is not. I’m sure the WH has easy access to those records and knows her status.

There is also the possibility she was a US citizen and formally renounced it when she stormed out in a self righteous huff.

[gunnerblue]

No I am not an attorney. The only law I know in depth is Real Estate law since that is my line of work. I am however, facebook friends with an Immigration attorney who has been posting a number of QandAs about this. And according to her, as long a he was no longer serving as a diplomat at the time his daughter was born, then she is legally a US Citizen.

Also note that this has been my stance from my first post i this thread. If she is an American then she gets all the rights and protections you and I have. It doesn't mean there are no consequences to her actions. But we can't just legally tell her she can't come back.

I am not an immigration attorney. I do, however, have experience in this area. If a non-immigrant alien is admitted into the US, he/she is admitted in a specific status. If he/she is found to be outside of that status, he/she is subject to removal. If the non-immigrant wishes to adjust status, he/she may apply to do so. As long as court appearances are kept, etc. the case is pending until a final decision is made. A type of limbo, so to speak (as ABNAK suggests).

[Todd.K]

I think his visa should determine it. If a diplomat gets fired they obviously still get diplomatic status as they pack up and go home. And you can't just naturalize, you need to have a green card for five years (or two years if married to a citizen). So to me the key is did he get his green card before she was born, because if not he was still here as a diplomat.

[SteyrAUG]

The thing that pisses me off the most, is to get an ordinary job, I always have to provide proof of citizenship.

Every single time. And I was born here. I can't get away with saying, "I know I'm good" or anything like that. I don't get free lawyers who can put the burden of proof on employers.

[HKGuns]

Unbelievable. They should bring this bitch back then throw her ass in Gitmo until things get sorted out.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ign=storylines

Gitmo? They should hang her ass on the Whitehouse lawn.

[The_War_Wagon]

ISIS bride Hoda Muthana's family files lawsuit against Trump

She wants BACK in, eh? I LOVE Burgess Meredith.

[jsbhike]

The thing that pisses me off the most, is to get an ordinary job, I always have to provide proof of citizenship.

Every single time. And I was born here. I can't get away with saying, "I know I'm good" or anything like that. I don't get free lawyers who can put the burden of proof on employers.

That has always pissed me off too for the same reasons. I don't know about current fake ID, but the common ones for South Americans from 15 to 20 years ago were obviously fake so it wasn't like the employers were unaware if they even looked at all.