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    Rep Says Democrat Gun Legislation is Really About Registration

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-gun-registry/

    Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) warns that House Democrats’ real aim is to use the criminalization of private gun sales to set up a national gun registry.
    .@Jim_Jordan is back to reiterate how dangerous #HR8 and #HR1112 really are. "Universal" background checks lead to a national registry, which leads to confiscation – plain and simple. We must fight back and contact our lawmakers. → http://bit.ly/OpposeGunControl … #2A
    On January 13, 2019, Breitbart News reported that universal background checks are unenforceable without a gun registry. They are unenforceable without such a registry because the government must know the location of every gun and the name of every gun owner in order to know for certain that guns are not changing hands under the radar.

    Rep. Jordan is warning that the Democrats will not stop with a registry, but will continue down the road and add confiscation as well. That is the very pattern that was followed in California, where Second Amendment rights now hang by a thread.

    My take: We all knew it already, but it's worth repeating.

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    Well, it passed the House:

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...n-legislation/

    The House on Wednesday passed legislation to expand gun-purchase background check requirements to cover virtually all gun sales and most firearms transfers, taking its most far-reaching steps in years on gun control.

    The bill passed 240-190, after which gun control advocates who were on hand to observe the vote applauded in the House chamber. Eight Republicans voted yes, and two Democrats voted no.
    Though some House Republicans crossed the aisle to support the bill, it’s unlikely to become law anytime soon with the GOP in control of the U.S. Senate and the White House.
    My take: Don't go back to sleep. Anything could happen.

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    It's interesting that this is at the same time one of the least offensive and most damaging laws. It is least offensive because on the face of it, and probably why it is popular even with 'gun' people, is that on the face it doesn't restrict anything. Most people aren't buying and selling used guns, so all their gun (new) transfers are from an FFL. Where's the problem people will say. Of course, we all know that this is just the next step to registration because once this doesn't 'work' it will be blamed on that we don't know where the guns are now.

    Every time we push off UBCs for another time, the real net effect is that we put off their push for registration for another few years. And from there we know that confiscation might be next, but I think it would more likely be titration: a slow roll of every five years the need to turn in the current baddy, starting with 50cals then to 'AW', then to 'sniper rifles'.

    I think the most effective way to fight this is to ask what is being done with the current people who break the law and fail a BGC? How about we start prosecution those people before we get a new shiny law.
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    It's been said before;
    "Come and Take 'em."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    It's been said before;
    "Come and Take 'em."
    The msm will invent/fake crimes to cover up the true nature of the confiscations. Law abiding citizens will become "criminals" instantly to justify the leftists actions.

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    Here's reason to actually fear this stuff:

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/26/polit...icy/index.html

    The convergence of Democrats around the universal background check bill partly derives from the overwhelming public backing for the measure, which usually exceeds 80% support in polls. (The bill would close what's called "the gun show loophole" by including such venues, which are now exempt, in the requirement for background checks on all guns sold through licensed dealers.) But the Democratic consensus also reflects a larger shift in the party whose implications extend far beyond issues relating to guns.

    Compared with the 1990s or even the early 2000s, House Democrats today are far less dependent on districts with large numbers of culturally conservative blue-collar and rural voters. Instead, the party's new majority is centered on urban and suburban districts that are either racially diverse, well educated, or both.
    The willingness, even eagerness, of most House Democrats to embrace new gun control measures highlights how the party's evolution into a metropolitan-based coalition is shifting its incentives -- and reconfiguring its central fault line. For years, social and cultural issues -- ranging from abortion, gay rights and guns to questions of racial equity and immigration -- created the most difficult divisions for a Democratic House caucus trying to protect a large number of rural and Southern seats.

    But those social issues are likely to prove much less divisive for today's metro-centered party.
    Over time, the evidence grew more irrefutable that by abandoning gun control, Democrats were trying to placate voters they had already lost, while slighting the voters they were attracting. In the latest polling from the nonpartisan Pew Research Center, for instance, two-thirds of nonwhite adults, nearly two-thirds of college-educated white women and a majority of college-educated white men all said it was more important to control gun ownership than to protect gun rights...
    And in 2018, dozens of Democratic challengers in House races touted their support for additional gun control measures, particularly the universal background checks. On Election Day, 40 Democratic challengers beat Republican incumbents with strong records of supporting the NRA, according to Giffords' calculations.

    "Forty Democrats were elected to replace Republicans and almost every one of them made gun safety an issue in their campaign," said Deutch.
    The key to the shifting politics of guns is that Democrats from such suburban seats in all parts of the country -- even the South -- are generally supporting tougher restrictions.
    ...more Republicans will cross over to support the background check bill than Democrats will defect to oppose it.
    My take: Woe to gun owners if we lose the Senate and the presidency next time.

    Any gun control measure the House approves, of course, still faces very long odds in the Senate, which is controlled by a Republican majority rooted in rural states, where gun ownership is more prevalent and the NRA is strong. But even so, a strong House vote to approve universal background checks on Wednesday would mark a milestone in the Democrats' reconfiguration into a party advancing the cultural priorities of metropolitan America.
    ...President Trump on Monday already warned that he will veto the bill if it clears both chambers...

    My take: Don't just take comfort in this last part and think all is well. There is a cultural shift in this country with younger people supporting more gun controls and the Democrat party finally realizing how to exploit it. WAKE UP!
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    Are you sure more young people are supporting gun control?

    If anything more young people are into guns than ever. There are girls buying their own ARs now, for themselves.

    Now I live in a Confederate state so I don’t know about these other bicurious, latte sipping areas but most of the people buying guns are young, black, and female.
    Honestly gun control is a boomer thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    Are you sure more young people are supporting gun control?

    If anything more young people are into guns than ever. There are girls buying their own ARs now, for themselves.

    Now I live in a Confederate state so I don’t know about these other bicurious, latte sipping areas but most of the people buying guns are young, black, and female.
    Honestly gun control is a boomer thing.
    I can only speak from my personal situation. My girlfriend's daughter used to love going to the range with us. I'd give her little prizes if she shot her .22 and hit the target.

    Unfortunately the local school system has so turned her against firearms and gun ownership that now she won't even touch one and will probably become an anti-gun activist in years to come.

    Yes, the change has been that dramatic.

    I can only imagine that must be happening in household after household around this country.

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    This is why gangster rap and trap music is saving America. A lot of white girls are going to be pursuing black males. Statistically, your girlfriends daughter is going to be one of them.

    You will not find a more Molon Labe genre than hardcore, dirty south trap music. Gone are the days of Uzis and Tech 9s. They full on reference M4s and Barretts now.

    Not giving up my chopper to no copper, bruh

    You need to spend more time in the hood and/or prison system. These are the people secretly making America great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post

    You need to spend more time in the hood and/or prison system. These are the people secretly making America great
    LOL. I worked for the local prison. It should be legal just to set up artillery pieces and shell the place to rubble.

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