Colorado HS wrestler forfeits state tournament match rather than wrestle girl

[TomMcC]

Thx, thought I missed something there.

Yeah, I remember from HS those rules you mentioned. I wasnt good enough to be on the wrestling team, but we did wrestle in regular gym and had to learn some moves and the rules.

[Adrenaline_6]

In my case higher rank typically translated to talent and ability so it became a race to see if I could lapel choke her before she lapel choked me. I'm also a mid sized male so I couldn't "hulk out" and win by sheer force. But I had no problem using force as much as I was able.

Only time I felt bad was when I tried to scissor lock a neck hold with my legs and ended up heel kicking a female right in the face when I tried to swing my leg around. Lots and lots of blood, but could have just as easily been a guy and it wouldn't be the first time somebody got hit with an elbow, knee or foot during some kind of attempted reversal. I know I've been there.

I got ya. I do no gi, so it is less technical from the get go. I'm not big either, but if you recognize a situation early enough like an arm bar, Kimura, Americana, etc you can power out of the dangerous situation easier, or have more time till the point of no return with a female than a big strong dude who is getting it no matter what.

Yea, getting hit with elbows, knees, the occasional neck crank that messes you up for a few days is the price you pay.

[SteyrAUG]

I got ya. I do no gi, so it is less technical from the get go. I'm not big either, but if you recognize a situation early enough like an arm bar, Kimura, Americana, etc you can power out of the dangerous situation easier, or have more time till the point of no return with a female than a big strong dude who is getting it no matter what.

Yea, getting hit with elbows, knees, the occasional neck crank that messes you up for a few days is the price you pay.

It was long ago in a Kodokan dojo far, far away so lots of things weren't up to me. Gi was standard because we were required to know how to use it to choke people. More to the point, in the olden days you couldn't make shodan grade unless you have experienced being choked out with a lapel choke.

Kids these days have it easier from what I understand. But the important part was our teacher was also military and not necessarily "sport oriented" so once a month we had to report to the parking lot in front of the dojo wearing jeans, sneakers and a t shirt for randori on the pavement. Lot of things that worked inside absolutely did not work outdoors on a hard surface and even the simplest things like breakfalls required lots of attention because even when you did them correctly it still hurt.

Of all of my time in the martial arts and having explored about 40 systems (and I only count those where I devoted a year or more to training) my time with Kodokan Judo was probably the most physically exhausting.

[Adrenaline_6]

It was long ago in a Kodokan dojo far, far away so lots of things weren't up to me. Gi was standard because we were required to know how to use it to choke people. More to the point, in the olden days you couldn't make shodan grade unless you have experienced being choked out with a lapel choke.

Kids these days have it easier from what I understand. But the important part was our teacher was also military and not necessarily "sport oriented" so once a month we had to report to the parking lot in front of the dojo wearing jeans, sneakers and a t shirt for randori on the pavement. Lot of things that worked inside absolutely did not work outdoors on a hard surface and even the simplest things like breakfalls required lots of attention because even when you did them correctly it still hurt.

Of all of my time in the martial arts and having explored about 40 systems (and I only count those where I devoted a year or more to training) my time with Kodokan Judo was probably the most physically exhausting.

That is why I like the no gi. You most likely will not be in a situation where you have a durable enough piece of clothing to lapel choke someone on the street. Although when watching gi matches, I admire the technicality of it (more like chess), when watching no gi, it is totally different. It's faster, more forgiving and a lot of methods do not apply that would with a gi. Strength and power has more "say" in the no gi world unfortunately, not to mention a light coat of sweat changes things too.