UFO's

[Hmac]

Some seem to be selective about what science they'll accept and what science they reject. Since scientists haven't got a clue about how chemicals could evolve by chance into life it's just taken in by faith that it happen...the alternative is too much to bear.

The new man's religion...scientism.

One could argue the alternative is too much to bear because it doesn’t make sense.

[jpmuscle]

Or creationism is nonsensical BS so that’s an option too.

I’m not saying discount the potential for a creator in form or context but getting biblical with the stuff is lol worthy


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[TomMcC]

One could argue the alternative is too much to bear because it doesn’t make sense.

Then the best any of us could hope for is pure skepticism. We have zero hope of ever really knowing even one thing as true.

What's the real motivation for people wanting alien existence to be true?

Do you both admit that you have faith that chemical evolution occurred?

[MountainRaven]

We were in a better place theologically when men of God agreed that nothing in religion refuted science and nothing in science refuted religion.

[TomMcC]

We were in a better place theologically when men of God agreed that nothing in religion refuted science and nothing in science refuted religion.

That pretty much changed forever with Darwin.

[MountainRaven]

That pretty much changed forever with Darwin.

Because evolution refutes the existence of God?

[TomMcC]

Because evolution refutes the existence of God?

I would say Darwinism denies the existence of God. It postulates life from matter and energy by an unknown process...thus no God needed.

Pretty much before Darwin, most scientists in the west were Christians or at least theists.

[Outlander Systems]

Atomistic materialism robs man of telos.

I would say Darwinism denies the existence of God. It postulates life from matter and energy by an unknown process...thus no God needed.

Pretty much before Darwin, most scientists in the west were Christians or at least theists.

[Hmac]

Then the best any of us could hope for is pure skepticism. We have zero hope of ever really knowing even one thing as true.

What's the real motivation for people wanting alien existence to be true?

Do you both admit that you have faith that chemical evolution occurred?

Many people want so badly to believe that that "one thing is true" that they will go to great lengths to make something up that can satisfy that desperate desire, institutionalize it because in their primitiveness they have no other explanation, and then accept it as "true". For some, it's a magical being that waved his/her hand and said "let there be light", and for others it's physiology, biochemistry, and genetics. Yeah. I think life emerged over billions of years from a primordial soup of chemicals and I think Darwinism is spot-on. I think that because, to me, it makes more sense than mysticism, ritual, and institutionalized superstition. YMMV, and I think that's fine.

I don't "want" alien existence to be true, it just is. A statistical inevitability.



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[WillBrink]

One could argue the alternative is too much to bear because it doesn’t make sense.

Well, there's that...