View Poll Results: How Do You Explain the UFO Phenomenon?

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    Maybe should be a multiple choice. Angelic, Alien or Government, could be all three. No way any maned craft could take the Gs from the Temple Mount incident in 2011.


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    They are out there and they like screwing with Navy pilots.

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    with so many fakes on video vs the couple you have to wonder about sadly this is how it works though put out enough good fakes and you then question everything !

    I do wonder about some of the military stuff though very cool and interesting for sure

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    Ill take USS Hillenkoeter for 300 please


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    Quote Originally Posted by mack7.62 View Post
    They are out there and they like screwing with Navy pilots.
    In the first video, one of the pilots was interviewed last year and said one of the "Tic Tac" UFO's was at @ 60,000 feet, then dropped to sea level in something like 2 seconds. That's beyond the capacity of any known aircraft.

    Of all the years I flew in the Army, no UFO stories. However, after I retired I encountered something I cannot explain. Let me tell you:

    Some years back I was on the Navajo Reservation in Arizona attending the funeral of someone I knew from the Army. Myself and another buddy were driving north on Highway 191 @ six miles north of Rockpoint, Arizona (middle of nowhwere) around 2am. Off to the left (west) we saw a light in the sky about 45 degrees above ground level. It was behaving weird. We stopped the truck, turned off everything and got out and watched it. It was a pulsing white orb of a light that seemed to change color when it pulsed. It was moving north to south then back in the opposite direction. We thought maybe a helicopter, but when it changed directions it was abrupt without slowing down. I looked for any kind of anti-collision lights but saw nothing familiar. We also watched to see if it was some kind of searchlight, but it didn't fit that criteria.

    In the direction west we were looking there is no town or another paved road for 30 miles across country. It was clear weather and a starry night with no moon. We heard no sound out of this thing. Finally it seemed to grow in size as if coming in our direction. As it appeared to get closer the pulsing glow seemed to have more than one color, but the pulses were a second or less. After moving north again, it shot off to the southwest and disappeared. To this day we have no idea what we were seeing, but it did not have the flight dynamics of any kind of aircraft I have seen. You can look up Rock Point, Arizona and we north of town looking off to the southwest, parked along the two-lane US 191.

    On a side note, this area of the Navajo Reservation is very rural, with a less sophisticated population. Back in the late 1980's the B-1 Lancer used to do low level flights over this rural area of the Navajo Reservation. In fact I got a shot of one such flyovers about 200 feet above the deck over my campsite. Used a 35mm camera with ASA-200 Kodachrome at 1/2000th of a second to capture an image of the bomber. Was on leave on a camping trip. I think the government utilized rural areas with an uneducated population to test their stuff.
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    I think they are a combination of things, mostly based upon human assumption.

    I think if an alien species was capable of traveling to our planet their capability would be so advanced we'd never even know they were there. Also if we ever were visited, they probably were looking at dinosaurs which have been the primary inhabitants of this planet for a lot longer than us.

    I also don't think humans are so damn interesting they'd get the specific attention of anyone or anything out there, that is just our own vanity.
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    We as humans would be pretty arrogant to believe that we were the only intelligent life in a universe that is so immense we can't comprehend it. Have they come here? Maybe, maybe not. But they are out there somewhere no doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    We as humans would be pretty arrogant to believe that we were the only intelligent life in a universe that is so immense we can't comprehend it. Have they come here? Maybe, maybe not. But they are out there somewhere no doubt.
    Exactly how I feel. There is no way we are the only life in the universe, or even the galaxy. Maybe we other races are at the same level we are. Maybe there have been entire races develop and die out. Who knows.. But laws of probability are pretty clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I think they are a combination of things, mostly based upon human assumption.

    I think if an alien species was capable of traveling to our planet their capability would be so advanced we'd never even know they were there. Also if we ever were visited, they probably were looking at dinosaurs which have been the primary inhabitants of this planet for a lot longer than us.

    I also don't think humans are so damn interesting they'd get the specific attention of anyone or anything out there, that is just our own vanity.
    Unless human existence on planet Earth is part of something that originated in some other part of our island of stars (Galaxy) and what science thinks happened randomly was part of some external input????
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    I agree with the combination approach. There is ample evidence to support that.

    A good read on the topic is Jacques Vallee “Passport to Mangonia.”

    As for the visitors from other planets idea, it is just too difficult to solve the life support, propulsion and speed problems inherent in interplanetary travel.

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