UFO's

[THCDDM4]

Multiple explanations for sure.

The few that very much can not be explained, are genuine and outliers- I tend to think that it’s eother a break away civilization, or an original civilization/inhabitants.

It’s easier to think that whatever “they” are; didn’t come from light years away- although that is possible and the usual arguments are based on our limited understanding of physics given our time to extrapolate data and theorize.

Technology beyond ones comprehension and understanding can make gods of mere mortal beings.

Inter dimensional travel without the need to traverse vast distances ina conventional sense- is also more believable than aliens traveling from 100 light years away literally traversing that distance through physical space.

There’s so much we don’t know about even our own oceans here on our little blue rock, so much we don’t know about the space around us, on top of us and underneath us- in terms of what we can physically observe and otherwise.

I’ve experienced enough to question it all and accept there are other beings, dimensions and levels of existence out there.

What we know and comprehend is but a spec of sand on an infinite beach.

Heck, lots of descriptions of our own universe portray it as essentially being a holographic supersymmetric computer simulation with doubly even self dual linear binary error-correcting block codes built in...

We are but infants in our, perception, comprehension, understanding and knowledge of the universe and existence we inhabit.

It’s laughable to believe anything is NOT possible based on such limited observations, time and understanding.

[Hmac]

I’m certain that intelligent life exists throughout the universe, but I strongly doubt any of it has visited Earth, so...yeah, hokum. But in a fun way.

[SteyrAUG]

Certainly this kind of discussion is above my pay grade, but I have always thought that there is a mix of science, theology all mixed in with some kind of external input into what has happened on our planet. I am a Christian, believing in a Supreme Being, but I don't buy into literal Biblical thought. I think of it more as the Cliff Notes of greater concepts.

When you consider the creation of the Earth in Genesis, this has been attributed to Moses receiving this information via a Divine source. The fact is the sequence of Genesis is a quick abridged version of what actually happened. A simple vision of something Moses' could not have understood, but provided in a way for easy comprehension. A blast from nothing creating the start of the universe, a molten earth, then a water covered earth, etc. Man is the last "creation" in the sequence. Its all in Genesis. Now how would a Moses who lived 3000 years ago know the proper sequence of events of the early solar system without some external input? The creation of the human is indicative of a transfer of knowledge, not the physical creation; "Let us create Man in our image". What is the image of a being that fills the universe? It's not a nose or fingers and toes. It's an evolutionary process which is crowned by the addition of "that something extra" given to mankind. It's kind of Arthur C. Clarke and his Obelisk in 2001 a Space Odyssey.

Now we hear of Dark Matter and the concept of multiple universes. It blows the mind. It's just a gut feeling that there is something more going on that is bigger than anyone could ever imagine, and maybe some of these encounters, UFO's, etc. are part of that? Please understand I am not a Bible thumper, and most of my thoughts would get me tossed from most organized denominations. That's fine, but somehow I think what we know, what we wonder about and theology is somehow tied to something that is incredible...."Something Wonderful"... to quote the film "2001...".

Don't worry, a little polite theology never upset me, I just happen to not necessarily agree with it.

But we have some commonality, where you see some kind of "extra help" in the ascent of man, I go back a little further with the introduction of first life. Stuff on the microbial that can truly go in almost any direction, that can result in stromatolites that can take all the carbon from the atmosphere and replace it with oxygen which results in the ability of entirely new forms of life to survive.

I think the building blocks of life are everywhere in the universe and being transported to all points known hitching rides on comets and possibly asteroids. And if they happen to find a world with liquid water or whatever else is needed to support initial life it probably happens. But the nature of the environment, and the diversity that results is more likely to dictate the nature of the species to come than any outside influences. There might be a basic starting template, but we must remember that every terrestrial being is a distant cousin of amphibians who crawled out of our oceans a long, long time ago.

I don't know if there is a Grand Conductor, but I would doubt that we are his special creation or that we would bear any resemblance to such a being if it in fact existed. It would be fantastic if that was the case, the idea that we are nothing more than an arbitrary evolutionary anomaly that can understand great things and then cease to exist forever is a bit depressing.

But this is all just conjecture, we don't even have enough evidence to speak in theory. But it's fun to think about, explore and wonder.

[SteyrAUG]

Det-Sog, take a look at my earlier post about what I experienced post-Army retirement. I have never seen anything before with flight dynamics like I experienced that early morning on the Navajo Reservation. Whether is was E.T. or E.T. technology passed on to the government, or just super secret technology created here, I have no idea. There's certainly a lot going on that we are not privy to.

BTW, my eldest son is married to an Air Force pilot. She drives the C-17 Globemaster III.

Not sure what you saw, but I don't think this government, or any government is capable of keeping such secrets. The most important secret government program of the 20th century was the Manhattan Project, and Klaus Fuchs and the Rosenburg spy network simply provided the critical details of the bomb to Stalin.

If we had alien technology, everyone would find out. This is the same government that couldn't conceal Clinton's blowjob. Now ideas about alien technology might have gotten us somewhere just like a TV show called Star Trek drove silicon valley innovations from the 1970s to the 1990s.

[Firefly]

I elect to believe that somewhere is a race of caucasian looking white Amazon women who dress only in bikini armor, eat red meat, and all stand 5,’11” and they have green anime hair, never heard of feminism and need a male to breed them.

And one day they will liberate me from this toilet of a planet and treat me like the belle of the ball

[Business_Casual]

I also note that, in my readings, I have not understood that God guaranteed that we were the only ones he created in his image.

Up to the Enlightenment, Church fathers would’ve agreed with the possibility of extraterrestrial life simply because to believe otherwise would limit Him. This was formalized by a French bishop, I can’t recall his name.

[Outlander Systems]

https://biblehub.com/john/10-16.htm

OH58D: We share many of the same thoughts regarding God explaining things to folks in a way they could understand.

I also note that, in my readings, I have not understood that God guaranteed that we were the only ones he created in his image.

[Doc Safari]

I elect to believe that somewhere is a race of caucasian looking white Amazon women who dress only in bikini armor, eat red meat, and all stand 5,’11” and they have green anime hair, never heard of feminism and need a male to breed them.

And one day they will liberate me from this toilet of a planet and treat me like the belle of the ball

I think AOC is an alien. Look at those eyes. That's not human.

[THCDDM4]

Not sure what you saw, but I don't think this government, or any government is capable of keeping such secrets. The most important secret government program of the 20th century was the Manhattan Project, and Klaus Fuchs and the Rosenburg spy network simply provided the critical details of the bomb to Stalin.

If we had alien technology, everyone would find out. This is the same government that couldn't conceal Clinton's blowjob. Now ideas about alien technology might have gotten us somewhere just like a TV show called Star Trek drove silicon valley innovations from the 1970s to the 1990s.

And yet, every time a Gummint official comes out and says they worked on projects involving aliens they are laughed at and ostrisized.

There’s been some wack jobs claiming some preposterous shit, but there are also a few credible folks from the space program, Air Force and intelligence that have told some interesting stories. Some American, some Canadien, some Russia and some British.

Yet, most folks write it off as BS. Most of t may be. But some of it I believe is not.

It doesn’t need to be kept secret in a traditional way of no one finding out or talking about it. It just needs to be talked about often and enough people talking about it found not credible to use a blanket veil of anyone who talks about it is laughed at and not taken seriously.

[Hmac]

Not sure what you saw, but I don't think this government, or any government is capable of keeping such secrets. The most important secret government program of the 20th century was the Manhattan Project, and Klaus Fuchs and the Rosenburg spy network simply provided the critical details of the bomb to Stalin.

If we had alien technology, everyone would find out. This is the same government that couldn't conceal Clinton's blowjob. Now ideas about alien technology might have gotten us somewhere just like a TV show called Star Trek drove silicon valley innovations from the 1970s to the 1990s.

Conspiracy theory is a mainstay orientation of many that post here. You're trying to put a pin in an important component of that....you won't be thanked.