China and Russia Defeat the US says...

[Averageman]

The odds of "World War III" in a conventional sense are long, at best. I do believe we have a lot of ground to make up in the cybersecurity/networking domain, which is how China and Russia have leveraged their defense spending to nullify some/many of our hardware advantages. As for the level of "fire" our forces might take and being unprepared for it, if it gets to that level, then what are the chances it stays a conventional conflict?

I've heard that one of the reasons we are behind in cyber security is that the best and the brightest aren't comfortable with the Intel people and the Intel people aren't comfortable with all of the tattoo's and piercings the best and the brightest have.
Some folks need to understand the level at which we're being ripped off and get off of their high horses and come back to reality. I think if we issued some of these people a cyber security letter of marque and turned them loose on the Chinese those Muppets would likely know what hit them.
There are a lot of folks out there who would love the chance to sit at the helm of a digital Pirate Ship that was funded by Uncle Sam and commit all sorts of mayhem against our enemies.

[WillBrink]

I've heard that one of the reasons we are behind in cyber security is that the best and the brightest aren't comfortable with the Intel people and the Intel people aren't comfortable with all of the tattoo's and piercings the best and the brightest have.
Some folks need to understand the level at which we're being ripped off and get off of their high horses and come back to reality. I think if we issued some of these people a cyber security letter of marque and turned them loose on the Chinese those Muppets would likely know what hit them.
There are a lot of folks out there who would love the chance to sit at the helm of a digital Pirate Ship that was funded by Uncle Sam and commit all sorts of mayhem against our enemies.

I tend to think that happens now perhaps more than we know/appreciate. But, commie countries have the ability to harden up their cyber systems far easier than we do for obvious reasons.

[soulezoo]

I wouldn't be so confident about the sea. Chicom nor Russia can match up ship to ship. What they can do though is take out billion dollar ships with million dollar missiles.

[jpmuscle]

I tend to think that happens now perhaps more than we know/appreciate. But, commie countries have the ability to harden up their cyber systems far easier than we do for obvious reasons.

Is our fleet even operating anywhere near an effective level?


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[BoringGuy45]

I wouldn't be so confident about the sea. Chicom nor Russia can match up ship to ship. What they can do though is take out billion dollar ships with million dollar missiles.

Neither have the subs, carriers, or naval aircraft we have though.

[vicious_cb]

More dailymail fake news. Sorry WWIII isn't going to happen. Everyones economy is too intertwined and alliances everyone has would make WWI look simple. Starting a war is basically mutally assured destruction for the world economy.

[WillBrink]

Is our fleet even operating anywhere near an effective level?

Above my pay grade to answer that one.

[flenna]

But the real tests are:

1. Is China’s and Russia’s military up to date on their diversity training?
2. Have China and Russia readily accepted and integrated LBGQTXYZ persons into their combat forces?

[Wake27]

Russia’s subs are definitely as good as ours, if not better, FYI. Their navy is a real threat and while the Chinese subs may not be as good, we have some weaknesses that would be very easily exploited. Also, we definitely do not have a civilian populace that is better armed than either army. IDGAF how many ARs and Vickers classes you have, PKMs are PKMs. Plus, number of guns doesn’t mean shit when you don’t have enough people and/or ammo for them.


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[Doc Safari]

I wonder what strategy they would take in defeating us?