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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlander Systems View Post
    You don’t think schizophrenic conspiracy false flag theories are a better explanation?
    A true paradigm shift.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VARIABLE9 View Post
    But how is the map wrong? It simply shows the route. Not necessarily identifying locations of shootings or victims.
    It shows the two attacks and where his camera cut off. But where his camera cut off was also where he attacked. So either that was a three attacks or that was the second attack and the map is wrong.

    Hopefully that makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    When people make a manifesto like that, they tend to be sincere.

    Ever seen Falling Down?
    A movie?

    Quote Originally Posted by TMS951 View Post
    To learn first hand about your enemy. To learn first hand about a culture we have been at war with for 18years.

    I doubt it was because he thought he was going to like the place. More to just see it all for himself.
    You hate people like this, you don’t need to hang out with them to seal the deal. Maybe he went to Pakistan with an open heart and mind and learned to hate them. Who knows. Until we get a clearer idea of what he was doing there, it sticks out like a sore thumb. Carter page spends a couple of weekends in Russia and that kicks off a 3 year investigation. You can’t just sweep this guy living there under a rug as some aberration with out a good explanation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Outlander Systems View Post
    You don’t think schizophrenic conspiracy false flag theories are a better explanation?
    That the guy is crazy and trying to judge his actions by rationale may be fools errand.
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    His manifesto is much different than I thought it would be.

    I thought it was going to be super Christian time for another crusade against Islam, immigrants, refugees are destroying the West with crime, values, support, etc. and he hoped to spur thousands of copycats emptying their countries of these guys with similar techniques.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramairthree View Post
    His manifesto is much different than I thought it would be.

    I thought it was going to be super Christian time for another crusade against Islam, immigrants, refugees are destroying the West with crime, values, support, etc. and he hoped to spur thousands of copycats emptying their countries of these guys with similar techniques.
    What was it then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    A movie?



    You hate people like this, you don’t need to hang out with them to seal the deal. Maybe he went to Pakistan with an open heart and mind and learned to hate them. Who knows. Until we get a clearer idea of what he was doing there, it sticks out like a sore thumb. Carter page spends a couple of weekends in Russia and that kicks off a 3 year investigation. You can’t just sweep this guy living there under a rug as some aberration with out a good explanation.



    That the guy is crazy and trying to judge his actions by rationale may be fools errand.
    So he was crazy? History of mental illness or you opinion? Real question.
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    For some reason, these strange beings, Australians, have decided that ruining their own country isn’t nearly enough, and they need to ruin the internet for everyone else. You could be having a conversation about cats, the different breeds, the pros and cons of having a cat, and then suddenly out of nowhere, an Australian shitposter appears. He might pretend to be interested in cats at first in order to get your trust and pretend that he wants to discuss the topic at hand. Make no mistake; he is here just for one reason; Shit-posting. Australians do not contribute anything to online conversations, they can only shit post. Whether it is an online forum like 4chan or 8chan, or a social network like Facebook, Twitter, or Tumblr. No matter what the topic is, you can be sure there is an Australian there for the sole purpose of shit-posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    What was it then?
    Last edited by Outlander Systems; 03-17-19 at 14:27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docsherm View Post
    So he was crazy? History of mental illness or you opinion? Real question.
    I think by definition you have to say he was mentally ill, in that his perception and responses to the world are way outside of the norm of what is accepted. How can you think anything else? Now is he 'crazy' in the legal tense of not being able to understand what he did and unable to defend himself in court- no. Outside of having a tumor doing this to him, he had lots of choices and time not to get that screwed up- so crazy, or mentally ill, isn't a defense.

    He might hate muslims, he might be a white nationalist- but the reason he did this might not be directly related to those- it may be that he just wanted to world to suffer. That seems to be the drive behind his social postings. They are carefully constructed to splinter and drive apart people.

    Maybe the guy is lucky. Maybe he doesn't plan on that much impact. Maybe he is just a meme parrot that is echoing things he heard and knows that at some level they will be engaged.

    My guess is that he'll either realize what he has done and shut down, or he will shift into high gear for a trial and we are due for a whole new shit storm that the MSM won't be able to turn away from.

    Quote Originally Posted by Outlander Systems View Post
    I thought you were talking about this guy:

    https://www.youtube.com/user/ozzymanreviews
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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    I think by definition you have to say he was mentally ill, in that his perception and responses to the world are way outside of the norm of what is accepted. How can you think anything else? Now is he 'crazy' in the legal tense of not being able to understand what he did and unable to defend himself in court- no. Outside of having a tumor doing this to him, he had lots of choices and time not to get that screwed up- so crazy, or mentally ill, isn't a defense.

    He might hate muslims, he might be a white nationalist- but the reason he did this might not be directly related to those- it may be that he just wanted to world to suffer. That seems to be the drive behind his social postings. They are carefully constructed to splinter and drive apart people.

    Maybe the guy is lucky. Maybe he doesn't plan on that much impact. Maybe he is just a meme parrot that is echoing things he heard and knows that at some level they will be engaged.

    My guess is that he'll either realize what he has done and shut down, or he will shift into high gear for a trial and we are due for a whole new shit storm that the MSM won't be able to turn away from.



    I thought you were talking about this guy:

    https://www.youtube.com/user/ozzymanreviews
    That is what I figured. Outside the norm, here and maybe in NZ but not everywhere. Remember that American's have a tendency to project our own values on everyone else even though they don't even come close to applying.

    Is he mentally ill? I don't know. My guess is if he was that off his rocker he would have a history. That is what I am looking for.

    They "How con any sane person do that" is the cry of those pushing an agenda.
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    Just from a lay person perspective: I think people we call “crazy” are actually belong in four categories—

    1) Crazy, truly. Disassociated from reality, psychotic, hallucinates, hears voices, incapable of rational processes. Don’t know if any mass killers in this category because it generally takes long term planning and prep to pull off.

    2) Crazy temporarily, from choosing to ingest mind altering substances. Otherwise not crazy just stupid.

    3) Sociopath. They do not recognize societal norms or self guilt and therefore 96% of us cannot imagine why these people do what they do. The can go from playing with their kids, driving off to abduct and torture someone, and coming home with pizza for the family. Totally rational and sometimes very successful, but they play by their own rules have have no capacity to feel empathy or guilt. Anything that makes them feel good is justified. Ted Buddy? BTK? Vegas shooter?

    4) Evil bastards. Totally rational individuals who know right from wrong and glory in choosing wrong and make others suffer. Charles Manson?

    This NZ killer is not crazy. He is probably a violent sociopath or just chose to be evil for its own sake. I don’t know if he is smart enough to do that.

    Did I miss a type of crazy?
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