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    Looking at the Morphy Auction book & assume it's online for your viewing pleasure...NFA starts @ item 1001.

    Items 1015, 1016 & 1017 should make ya giggity krazykarl!!



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    More NFA starting at items 2001
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunfixr View Post
    You actually believe that an individual will get an approval to make a machine gun on behalf of the Fed gov?
    Besides, it only says tax free, it says nothing about machine guns.
    The original comment I responded to was, "There is no legal way to build a machine gun on a form 1, period." So yes, I know for a fact it is possible and has happened, that a machine gun can lawfully made on a form 1 today. With that said, I should have said 1C, not 1B, as I am only aware of State entities making them and not Fed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    The original comment I responded to was, "There is no legal way to build a machine gun on a form 1, period." So yes, I know for a fact it is possible and has happened, that a machine gun can lawfully made on a form 1 today. With that said, I should have said 1C, not 1B, as I am only aware of State entities making them and not Fed.
    At least one of you is “missing” something the other didn’t explicitly say.

    I think for the OP, we should ASSUME he’s not a manufacturer or a government agency... just a guy trying to buy a machinegun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegademiC View Post
    At least one of you is “missing” something the other didn’t explicitly say.
    Hence why I reigned it back to what I already commented on. As you say, not relevant to OP, it was more a point of trivia.

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    Can someone explain to me who Dan Block is? All of Rubio's Thompson's for sale have been tested, cleaned, etc.. by Mr. Dan Block. My internet searches came up with no information on this guys resume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazykarl View Post
    Can someone explain to me who Dan Block is? All of Rubio's Thompson's for sale have been tested, cleaned, etc.. by Mr. Dan Block. My internet searches came up with no information on this guys resume.

    Ok. I found that he specializes in stocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazykarl View Post
    Can someone explain to me who Dan Block is? All of Rubio's Thompson's for sale have been tested, cleaned, etc.. by Mr. Dan Block. My internet searches came up with no information on this guys resume.
    Just be aware that with the convenience of buying from Rueben, you'll be paying a 10-20% premium on current selling prices. It's up to you to decide how much that "easy" transaction is worth to you.

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    You've got a few things to consider... from a reputable dealer you're going to be paying a premium over some guy selling one he's tired of. For someone just getting into this without an idea on how to do everything, my advice is have a local dealer who knows what they are doing, and have a good seller (as the seller may be out of state) who is a stand up guy.

    It's going to cost more, but you also don't have to navigate a mess of paperwork. Think of it like this--- if you buy a house, you're paying people to make life easier. Paying inspection, paying an agent, paying everyone under the sun. It costs money, but you have less surprises and less that could "go wrong" because you didn't sign something right or check a correct box.

    For starting out, I think it's absolutely worth having someone in your corner to handle the difficult stuff. It also is a tremendous help if the you have a dealer that really knows the guns and what to look for.

    The last thing... it was mentioned a 'test fire' and you not wanting a gun that won't run. As bad as it sounds... worry less about that. MGs are always broken and they always quit running right.... think of it like buying a classic car. You can buy a classic car in perfect shape, and randomly a year later it stops behaving properly. This is a big factor to consider when you're buying more obscure guns, and why things like Macs, M16s, HKs etc are desirable because they're generally easy and cheap to fix and repair. You want ease and cost of repair to be a factor, not so much if it doesn't run properly. (Think about it like this... if an AR-15 is missing a buffer it's not going to run right. But it's a cheap and easy fix.... so it's really not a big deal. Now if a 1865 weird prototype gun has some ultra-specific part that rusts and turns to dust, the fix isn't going to be nearly as simple.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunfixr View Post
    There is no legal way to build a machine gun on a form 1, period.

    The only way for a private individual to legally acquire a machine gun is to locate a transferable machine gun for sale, and go through the necessary steps to purchase it.
    Or, find someone to bequeath it to you, and wait, and then go through the necessary steps.

    If, in your search of one to buy, you see "post sample", move on. It is not transferable, and cannot be purchased by private individuals.
    Yes, it sucks, since they will be so much cheaper.

    A search will find sites where they are bought/sold. A search will find the process you will need to follow, both in state, and from another state.
    Move to Canada, it's legal to build any firearm including an open bolt as long as it's not prohibited by name.



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    I used to hang with the Thompson guys on the Iannamico brothers' board, and the rep among the Thompson Collectors' Association there was that Dan Block was THE guy to go to for new or restoration stocks, Merle Bitikofer is THE guy to go to for drum magazines and Paul Krogh (http://www.machinegunboards.com/foru...howtopic=10429) is THE guy to go to for any major internal mechanical problem--if it can be made to work again he can do it, and IIRC he's even brought a few basket-cases back from the dead.
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