Are the Red Flag laws going to be people’s line in the sand?

[Alex V]

And then there are those that do not talk..........

I would love to see them. With all the infringement that we have seen on our Second Amendment rights, one would think we would have seen them by now, no? RW Arms just surrendered 60,000 BumpStocks for destruction. All I see is talk.

Can someone difine what line in the sand means? And what happens if/when big gov crosses it. Is that when the shooting starts?

We draw another lines and continue to beat our chests about how THIS time it won't be crossed.

[docsherm]

I would love to see them. With all the infringement that we have seen on our Second Amendment rights, one would think we would have seen them by now, no? RW Arms just surrendered 60,000 BumpStocks for destruction. All I see is talk.

Remember that only a very small percent of Americans participated in the American Revolution. If you add in all of those that fought on both side of the American Civil War, less then 9% fought............ It is like a bar fight..... You really need to be worried about the quite guy in the corner that is not running his mouth....Same for serial killers.

Food for thought.

[Alex V]

Remember that only a very small percent of Americans participated in the American Revolution. If you add in all of those that fought on both side of the American Civil War, less then 9% fought............ It is like a bar fight..... You really need to be worried about the quite guy in the corner that is not running his mouth....Same for serial killers.

Food for thought.

I agree, but the point is with that the times we have had the government step on our dicks, someone would have done something.

How many laws have been passed which are blatant infringements, on both state and federal levels, with no consequences? None.

[Firefly]

Part of me wishes that I could attach a rider on any gun legislation to ban Black History Month and tax all streaming services out the wazoo and make a Television tax like in Germany.

THEN people would get pissed, take to the streets, and pull some Marie Antoinette mess with guillotines and crucifixions

[BoringGuy45]

Twenty years ago firearms and outdoor sports were safe subjects of conversation at the bar, at dinner parties, at social gatherings, etc. Now you gotta refrain from even mentioning to someone who might be "the wrong people." Used to be you could talk about guns with your liberal friends without hearing a lecture about how "nobody needs an AR15". It's not that way anymore. I don't know how old you are, but I wish I could show people what it was like in the eighties and nineties when the MSM and the liberal politicians hadn't demonized gun owners to the point that you had better not admit you own guns in front of certain people.

I dunno. I feel that the country was even more anti-gun 20 years ago. The left was even more aggressive, as DC v. Heller was still a decade away, and they knew that with the right justices, gun ownership could potentially be abolished completely. Handgun bans were on the table nationally, and in force in some places. And the fudd mentality was much more common even among conservatives; many had absolutely no problem with banning semi-auto rifles and actually supported it.

The difference that now, if you say the wrong thing in the wrong place, you're more likely to get assaulted by someone who can't mind their own business.

[docsherm]

Part of me wishes that I could attach a rider on any gun legislation to ban Black History Month and tax all streaming services out the wazoo and make a Television tax like in Germany.

THEN people would get pissed, take to the streets, and pull some Marie Antoinette mess with guillotines and crucifixions

I agree....... but I have to ask about the crucifixions........ You have brought that up a lot......... did you just watch Ben Hur or something?

[OH58D]

I agree....... but I have to ask about the crucifixions........ You have brought that up a lot......... did you just watch Ben Hur or something?

He only uses part of his name - the full name is: Pontius Pilotus Firefly.

[docsherm]

He only uses part of his name - the full name is: Pontius Pilotus Firefly.

You sir just won the internet for the day........LOLOLOLOL

[26 Inf]

In the same way that the current invol system is abused a little bit by spiteful people,
I see the red flag laws being used on a larger, spiteful, political, etc. scale.

I'm not aware of widespread abuse of involuntary committal - simply because at some point someone has to pay. From my experience in helping someone work through the process the biggest obstacle is the medical insurance.

I'm sure there will be abuses, although not a widespread as many think. Therefore, in states that adopt red flag laws it is going to be incumbent upon state firearms associations, and yes, gasp, even the ACLU to keep on top of things.

[26 Inf]

Meanwhile, John's mustache grows longer. Ever longer...

And I should point out that the balloon going up has nothing to do with the shoulder thing that goes up.

And it's a wild pitch, over the catchers head for strike one! Berkshire holds at Trinity!