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    Quote Originally Posted by Slater View Post
    Windham can go for the "retro look" without investing a lot of money in new parts.
    As long as they don't make too egregious mistakes to bug the purists, they have a real opportunity here, at a not unreasonable price. Hope they do the pencil barrel thing; that really affects the feel.
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    I have to say that I'm mildly surprised by the popularity of retro rifles these days. I'll be 59 in June, and I wonder if a majority of the buyers are in my age range and are nostalgic about these older models?

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    On a somewhat related note, I ordered one of these for my Brownell's Retro that I have on order. Not sure if OD Green or Black (or both?) would be period correct:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slater View Post
    On a somewhat related note, I ordered one of these for my Brownell's Retro that I have on order. Not sure if OD Green or Black (or both?) would be period correct:

    I use these on my retros.

    https://whatacountry.com/m14-nylon-sling.aspx

    Here are my M16A1 clones with the M14 nylon OD sling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slater View Post
    On a somewhat related note, I ordered one of these for my Brownell's Retro that I have on order. Not sure if OD Green or Black (or both?) would be period correct:

    https://i.imgur.com/PwLD4kGl.jpg
    OD Green is correct for everything from 1944+ M1 Garands to early 1970s M16s. I don't believe that black M1 web slings became a thing until after the black "silent" sling came out in the late 60s, early 70s and I don't know if black M1 web slings were ever issued.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slater View Post
    I have to say that I'm mildly surprised by the popularity of retro rifles these days. I'll be 59 in June, and I wonder if a majority of the buyers are in my age range and are nostalgic about these older models?
    I'm 38 and have never been anywhere near military service. I think the appeal of Retro ARs for me is the Atompunk looks and overall sleek lines of the older guns, coupled with their light weight, and the fact that a pencil-barreled 20" AR really does handle and shoot well.

    While I really like the old Prototype-thru-M16A1 guns, my actual favorite Retro ARs are probably the 700-series carbines (Model 723, 727, 733) though, so some 80's and 90's nostalgia probably is part of the equation for me I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slater View Post
    I have to say that I'm mildly surprised by the popularity of retro rifles these days. I'll be 59 in June, and I wonder if a majority of the buyers are in my age range and are nostalgic about these older models?
    I think old vets, who haven't followed black rifles in general, may be a deal of the market. I know when I first put my M16A1 clone together, and held it in my hands, I realized I had been a much younger man the last time I held such thing. It does bring you up short. Wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slater View Post
    I have to say that I'm mildly surprised by the popularity of retro rifles these days. I'll be 59 in June, and I wonder if a majority of the buyers are in my age range and are nostalgic about these older models?
    While there are a lot of guys in the 50-70 year old range getting into retro ARs, I have found a number of younger people (20s-early 40s) getting into them. I do believe that the main market is guys over 50 as they are returning to what they used in the military back in the late 1960s and 1970s. There are some that used older M16s up into the 1980s and early 1990s. The thing about the retro ARs is that they appeal to a number of different people for a number of different reasons. For me, I fell in love with the platform when I was issued my first M16A1 back in 1978.
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    The M16 got a lot of publicity in the old "S.W.A.T." TV series back in 1974-75. It's kind of hard for me to tell, but these don't appear to have the forward assist and seem to have three-prong flash suppressors:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slater View Post
    The M16 got a lot of publicity in the old "S.W.A.T." TV series back in 1974-75. It's kind of hard for me to tell, but these don't appear to have the forward assist and seem to have three-prong flash suppressors:

    Hard to tell exactly which model they represent. If the lower is a slabside and it does not have a screw-type pivot pin, then it is a clone of the Model 602. If it has a partial-fence lower, it is a clone of the earlier Model 604 (M16). If it does have the screw-type pivot pin, it could be a very early 1960s SP1. Again, it is hard for me to tell from that picture.
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