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    "See the film before you condemn it."

    I don't recall a single person in the film saying one word about outlawing the practice. There are, however, several scenes where the "pro abortion" faction apparently wants to control the narrative all the way through the process. According to the film, "pro choice" doesn't extend to the person about to have the procedure getting all the information about potential health hazards of going through with it.

    Most of what's against the film in this thread isn't even in the movie.

    "See the film before you condemn it."
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    Take the emotion away (I know it's not possible) but equating abortion to just personal beliefs pretty disingenuous.

    It is by definition taking a life out of inconvenience. So that should just be the standard.

    I realize it's a gradient of the life value of the individuals in question. The mother's life is worth more than the baby so she gets to make the decision to end the baby's life.

    That logic should be extended to all of society. Prisoners, welfare recipients, elderly, foster children, terminally ill, etc. should all fall under the choice of their caretaker to end their life.

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    Telling people with a different view than yours to "shut up" is an interesting way to assert your view as the only "logic" and others are just too emotional for reasoned debate.

    Maybe consider setting an example of reasoned debate rather than demeaning the other side as just "religious beliefs".

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    Other than the sequence I refer to in my first post, the movie for the most part is against the abortion industry, not the concept of abortion in and of itself.

    This is a pretty accurate review minus all the histrionics:

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...lion-opening/#

    a film that dares to question the ethics of abortion and the industry getting rich off of it
    In other words, it's less a political statement against abortion in and of itself and more a criticism of the industry that controls it. Women are carefully groomed to see abortion as their only alternative from the minute they enter the parking lot of the clinic.

    "See the movie before you condemn it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Safari View Post
    "See the film before you condemn it."

    I don't recall a single person in the film saying one word about outlawing the practice. There are, however, several scenes where the "pro abortion" faction apparently wants to control the narrative all the way through the process. According to the film, "pro choice" doesn't extend to the person about to have the procedure getting all the information about potential health hazards of going through with it.

    Most of what's against the film in this thread isn't even in the movie.

    "See the film before you condemn it."
    Not condemning the film, but certainly not going to see it. I don’t go to abortion films no matter which side of this issue is hawking them. What I’m saying is that the assertion that this movie, or any movie, will “change the country” on ANY political or religious agenda is likely to be pretty wide of the mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    Not condemning the film, but certainly not going to see it. I don’t go to abortion films no matter which side of this issue is hawking them. What I’m saying is that the assertion that this movie, or any movie, will “change the country” on ANY political or religious agenda is likely to be pretty wide of the mark.
    And yet you haven't seen the movie. Watch the video of the "fetus" trying to get away from the suction device and come back and post that you didn't at least react to seeing that.

    I think it will change the country. People who are uninformed about the actual process will (and should be) horrified.

    Imagine how you'd feel watching someone tie a dog to a post and then proceed to kill it on camera. Same type of horror.

    "See the movie before you condemn it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by docsherm View Post
    So you don't support the death penalty? Because there is no logical reason to keep someone in jail for their entire life...... No reason at all except for an emotional one in that it is bad to kill. Be cause it is VERY inconvenient for me to pay for this all of the time.
    I do support it. The death penalty is just that...a penalty that was ruled as deserved. Killing an innocent child for convenience is a totally different thing altogether. That child did nothing to deserve it. That's like saying murder and killing someone in self defense is the same thing. Not even close.
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    There are already enough people in this country.

    1/3 of them are on the dole.

    When you add government workers etc, this number is more like 1/2.

    College graduates cannot get jobs. Student loans and real estate are out of control. Illegals busting in by the millions. Legal immigrants busting in by the millions.

    I don't not want anymore people. I do not want anymore land development.

    Trump avoided this albatross during his campaign and won the election.

    If those liberals want to abort themselves, let them get an abortion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docsherm View Post
    This really falls into the who cares category. It really doesn't matter what you religious beliefs are everyone should shut up and let the individual choose what they want to do. This is a very sensitive topic and traditionally only hypocrites argue the point......on both sides. The Left and Right are both hypocrites when it come to this. And the WORSE part is that the Religious Right are play checkers when they should be playing chess........ Not thinking at all with their opposition of pro choice.


    This thread will get closed real quick as there is going to be a bunch of emotional crap thrown into it and no logic at all.


    Speaking of emotional crap......



    You basically said everyone should shut up if they don't agree with you and everyone is a hypocrite that debates the topic at all. Seems legit bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    There are already enough people in this country.

    1/3 of them are on the dole.

    When you add government workers etc, this number is more like 1/2.
    Maybe we should fire back up forced sterilization? A one child policy? Death penalty for the handicapped? I mean if we have too many people we may as well nip this in the ass and not rely just on abortion.
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