Twenty Seconds of Film That Will Change the Country

[Honu]

so more black babies are killed in NY then born ?

we have killed more babies by so called choice as some on the left say its empowering ! ironic as that is what dictators feel about killing people as do mass murderers etc..

history will be interesting to read since more babies have been killed then all war added up
so called justified ?

how about you start a life you are not allowed to end it

let's use a heart beat for the start maybe ? since nobody can live without a heart beat so the moment the heart starts beating you will be charged with murder and see how that changes things

and then let's turn that roll around to the children that are born can decide to end the heart beat of the parents if they felt they did not do a proper job raising them ? or maybe near end of life if the parents need care we just say leave it up to the kids to decide the fate ?

[Firefly]

I’d glady sacrifice 10 einsteins to prevent 10,000 Dillingers

[grizzlyblake]

so more black babies are killed in NY then born ?

we have killed more babies by so called choice as some on the left say its empowering ! ironic as that is what dictators feel about killing people as do mass murderers etc..

history will be interesting to read since more babies have been killed then all war added up
so called justified ?

how about you start a life you are not allowed to end it

let's use a heart beat for the start maybe ? since nobody can live without a heart beat so the moment the heart starts beating you will be charged with murder and see how that changes things

and then let's turn that roll around to the children that are born can decide to end the heart beat of the parents if they felt they did not do a proper job raising them ? or maybe near end of life if the parents need care we just say leave it up to the kids to decide the fate ?

Your post is a little choppy but I think I agree with your premise.

If we are all going to agree that ending other lives out of convenience is going to be acceptable I don't see that it makes any sense to just stop at unborn babies.

It makes much more logical sense to end the lives of all the people on welfare or unemployment, retirees living off social security, handicapped/special needs people, folks on life support in the ICU, etc.

[Doc Safari]

I’d glady sacrifice 10 einsteins to prevent 10,000 Dillingers

When I was in college I actually had to argue in favor of abortion as part of a debating class. My argument was that since Charles Manson had pretty much been unwanted his entire life, the lives of Sharon Tate and the other victims of the Manson family could have been saved had Charles Manson been aborted. I won the debate.

Later on, I decided my entire argument was fallacious because you don't know at a young age that a new child is going to grow up to be a monster. What if Charles Manson had gone on to discover the cure for some major disease instead of....becoming a major disease?

It's a tough argument but the more I think about it the whole abortion thing gets to eugenics, deciding who will live and die, assisted suicide for the elderly, culling the herd of anyone "inferior", and a whole can of worms of people playing God.

Supposedly, I don't know if it's true or not, but Margaret Sanger started Planned Parenthood to make sure the populations of "people of color" didn't grow. Whether that's true or not I think it has become not only an aspect of "family planning" but also "population planning".

[lowprone]

By the current rationale for abortion, I should be able to force the next drunk or drug addled idiot off the road,
shoot them in the head as long as I leave a note on the windshield identifying myself and testifying that they
inconvenienced me.
I'm cool with that .

[Hmac]

... but I do believe women are being lied to.

I have known many women that have had abortions, maybe hundreds. I disagree with that premise, which the film makers have manipulated you into believing and was the point of making the film in the first place. But I do respect your passion and agree that the whole abortion issue is fraught with terrible ethical dilemmas.

[Firefly]

When I was in college I actually had to argue in favor of abortion as part of a debating class. My argument was that since Charles Manson had pretty much been unwanted his entire life, the lives of Sharon Tate and the other victims of the Manson family could have been saved had Charles Manson been aborted. I won the debate.

Later on, I decided my entire argument was fallacious because you don't know at a young age that a new child is going to grow up to be a monster. What if Charles Manson had gone on to discover the cure for some major disease instead of....becoming a major disease?

It's a tough argument but the more I think about it the whole abortion thing gets to eugenics, deciding who will live and die, assisted suicide for the elderly, culling the herd of anyone "inferior", and a whole can of worms of people playing God.

Supposedly, I don't know if it's true or not, but Margaret Sanger started Planned Parenthood to make sure the populations of "people of color" didn't grow. Whether that's true or not I think it has become not only an aspect of "family planning" but also "population planning".

The law of averages pretty much states there will be more chaff than wheat.

Didn’t you say you policed for 8 years?
Kinda naive with that background.

Single moms aren’t going away any time soon.
Neither are little thuggies.

I would argue there aren’t enough abortions.

Really, honestly, and truly it takes two to tango.
And nobody wants to clean up after the party so may as well cancel the ball

[WillBrink]

I'm referring to the 20 seconds showing the ultrasound view of an abortion in the new movie UNPLANNED:

https://www.unplannedfilm.com/

We saw the movie this weekend. I do not believe there was a woman in the theater who was not in tears after the scene in question.

The movie is somewhat "Hollywoodized" and tedious in spots, but nonetheless a powerful anti-abortion film.

If this movie doesn't long-term start the ball rolling for abortion to be utterly banned in this country, then nothing else will in my opinion.

Go see it. If you are pro-life, and especially if you are pro-choice.

My feeling on that is, if a movie can alter a person's views on a topic that foundational, their views are not based on a solid foundation. There's no movie that would alter my views on such a topic.

[Doc Safari]

Didn’t you say you policed for 8 years?
Kinda naive with that background.

Not really. Just because someone commits a certain crime doesn't make them 100% bad. Now I'll agree child molesters, rapists and serial killers are scum that aren't worth a bullet to put them out of society's misery, but it is possible for a person to do a bad thing or two but still have some redeeming qualities. I can't stand gangbangers either, but it is possible for a person to get caught up in something before they know what's happening. They get stuck in a life and can't get out even though they want to. Then there are those that get tempted one time and get caught. Maybe if they had it to do over again they would have resisted the urge to do something illegal that they thought would make them a ton of money or something. I've met very few perps that were totally unredeemably evil, but then again this was a backwater area for a long time.

[grizzlyblake]

By the current rationale for abortion, I should be able to force the next drunk or drug addled idiot off the road,
shoot them in the head as long as I leave a note on the windshield identifying myself and testifying that they
inconvenienced me.
I'm cool with that .

Yeah, or if your 13 year old son is being an idiot skipping school and slinging stolen Perocet. Sorry kiddo, muh rights.

I'm really 'bout it for all the geriatrics on social security and pretty much everyone on food stamps. Let's go.