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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post
    So an officer can't just claim they thought they didn't see a seat belt in use?
    I guarantee you will never find my name as a sponsor or on a petition asking for seatbelt laws. Don't shoot the messenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post
    I guarantee you will never find my name as a sponsor or on a petition asking for seatbelt laws. Don't shoot the messenger.
    You said all anyone has to do is wear their seat belt to avoid the problem. Vehicles manufactured with lap belt only or no belt meets legal requirements. Doesn't work till pulled over though and nothing suffices with someone wanting to go on a fishing trip which I have always assumed plays a major role in the adoption of seat belt laws.
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    Lots of WRONGS in this encounter starting with not wearing your seatbelt! The cop did the biggest wrong BUT like the other officer said hand me your license and insurance info and you would be on your way! Sooooo with that said here is my thought on the whole thing! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFJvZtgyXRE Stupid actions get stupid results. Warning,swearing in video for those concerned with that.
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    No desire to debate seat belt laws. Cops don't bother many folks who don't act skeevy. A bored cop may pull you over just because - deal with it. I don't want to be a policeman, and I am pretty thankful for the folks that are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post
    No desire to debate seat belt laws. Cops don't bother many folks who don't act skeevy. A bored cop may pull you over just because - deal with it. I don't want to be a policeman, and I am pretty thankful for the folks that are.
    So not many? What is your thresh hold where it becomes too many?

    I don't really have any interest in getting pulled over so someone won't be bored. Really a shame that there isn't a sticker or patch that people who do support that behavior could put on their person or property as an open invitation since both parties would like it and tax payers wouldn't be on the hook for a settlement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post
    So not many? What is your thresh hold where it becomes too many?

    I don't really have any interest in getting pulled over so someone won't be bored. Really a shame that there isn't a sticker or patch that people who do support that behavior could put on their person or property as an open invitation since both parties would like it and tax payers wouldn't be on the hook for a settlement.
    I dunno why you have such a hardon for me, but I'm already spoken for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m1a_scoutguy View Post
    Lots of WRONGS in this encounter starting with not wearing your seatbelt! The cop did the biggest wrong BUT like the other officer said hand me your license and insurance info and you would be on your way! Sooooo with that said here is my thought on the whole thing! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFJvZtgyXRE Stupid actions get stupid results. Warning,swearing in video for those concerned with that.
    Lots of truth in that video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    File this under stupid laws + stupid people who want to assault armed enforcers of said stupid laws = winning stupid prizes.
    I'm gonna remember you said this when they start kicking in doors and confiscating guns after they pass a nationwide ban.
    If you can't win a gun fight against a lightly-trained individual during broad daylight with 88 rounds of 30-06, I'm not sure you'd be able to do it with... any other firearm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post
    No desire to debate seat belt laws. Cops don't bother many folks who don't act skeevy. A bored cop may pull you over just because - deal with it. I don't want to be a policeman, and I am pretty thankful for the folks that are.
    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post
    So not many? What is your thresh hold where it becomes too many?
    I don't really have any interest in getting pulled over so someone won't be bored. Really a shame that there isn't a sticker or patch that people who do support that behavior could put on their person or property as an open invitation since both parties would like it and tax payers wouldn't be on the hook for a settlement.
    I think it is important to debate seatbelt laws because as I said earlier, your Officer pulls the guy over for not wearing his seatbelt and in the meantime I pass the scene while riding a motorcycle without a helmet or a seatbelt and I'm fine.
    We both pay taxes for the roadways, we both require licensing and insurance, but I get to make choices about seatbelts and he doesn't?
    That's humbug and if you're using a seatbelt violation to perform a fishing expedition because someone looks "Hinky" define Hinky for me because although I'm not an Attorney, but that's would be a pretty broad term that is open for abuse.
    A "Bored Cop" pulling you over just because he's bored clearly violates the Constitutional rights we have here in the United States.
    Now lets go really hog wild and say a "Bored Cop" has a feeling someone is "Hinky", see how that could go wrong?
    So lets add in one other factor to Bored Cop, feeling someone is hinky and a possibleseatbelt violation, lets add in a Partner who pulls her pistol instead of her taser and then uses her Senior Partner as a back stop as She shoots a guy who was five minutes ago on his way to work.

    So I would say, if you're using these stops to drum up revenue, go on a fishing expedition or because you think someone looks "Hinky" you're eventually going to have a remarkably bad day because you act like that.
    That bad day might be when you are embarrassed in court or when you're found guilty of violating someones Constitutional rights or when you go hands on with someone because they just got tired of Cops deciding once too often that they look "Hinky".
    You're right, had he just handed over his documents and been on his way this never would have happened, but then had the Cop used some discretion and not pulled him over for something as straight up asinine as a possible seatbelt violation, it wouldn't have happened either.

    If you want me to "Back the Blue" how about lets support a lot more "Protect and Serve" as opposed to some crazy Sheriff of Nottingham tactics to drum up some tax revenue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big A View Post
    I'm gonna remember you said this when they start kicking in doors and confiscating guns after they pass a nationwide ban.
    A nationwide ban with confiscation in this country would be a huge undertaking and is highly unlikely for at least the term of the current Supreme Court.

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