New Gun: IWI Carmel

[mig1nc]

8 lbs 2 oz seems unnecessarily heavy for what you get. A pound heavier than a SCAR and .7 lbs heavier than a Sig Spear Lt.


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[OhThatGuy]

There are some at $1,599 on Gunbroker.

[PNorris]

I can't find any disassembly videos and I want to see the guts!!!

[MadAngler1]

I played with one at a LGS yesterday. Very well balanced.

I emailed IWI to post a manual of some sort about this rifle (full break down).

For $1750 MSRP, it may be a heck of a deal: adjustable gas block, chrome lined CHF barrel. It actually has a fairly decent factory trigger as well.

The weight is an issue, but when you hold it, it feels like it is 7 lbs. They may have beefed up the internals or something. The handguard feels great in the hands, so perhaps it was a good move on IWI’s part.

[OhThatGuy]

I played with one at a LGS yesterday. Very well balanced.

I emailed IWI to post a manual of some sort about this rifle (full break down).

For $1750 MSRP, it may be a heck of a deal: adjustable gas block, chrome lined CHF barrel. It actually has a fairly decent factory trigger as well.

The weight is an issue, but when you hold it, it feels like it is 7 lbs. They may have beefed up the internals or something. The handguard feels great in the hands, so perhaps it was a good move on IWI’s part.

Yep, that’s exactly my takeaway on it. There’s one on gunbroker with a starting bid of $1,429 right now.

[MadAngler1]

IWI just emailed me back:

https://iwi.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/carmel.pdf

35 inch lbs for the handguard screws. From the pics, I still can’t figure out why this weighs more than my SCAR 16 with an extended handguard. I will ask about an armorer’s manual and plans for spare parts.

[mig1nc]

I played with one at a LGS yesterday. Very well balanced.

I emailed IWI to post a manual of some sort about this rifle (full break down).

For $1750 MSRP, it may be a heck of a deal: adjustable gas block, chrome lined CHF barrel. It actually has a fairly decent factory trigger as well.

The weight is an issue, but when you hold it, it feels like it is 7 lbs. They may have beefed up the internals or something. The handguard feels great in the hands, so perhaps it was a good move on IWI’s part.

So you’re saying it isn’t as nose heavy as most piston guns? Interesting.


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[OhThatGuy]

So you’re saying it isn’t as nose heavy as most piston guns? Interesting.


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I can tell you that my 13.7” JAKL feels way more nose heavy than the Carmel. You’d swear it was heavier than it is.

[MadAngler1]

So you’re saying it isn’t as nose heavy as most piston guns? Interesting.


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Correct. It seems like the bulk in the back of the gun (stock and receiver) gives it balance. Even more so than a B&T APC 223 I’ve played with. Very comfortable and easy to hold on first impression. Seems to have a good cheekweld, but it’s bizarre that they did not install a QD socket on the handguard; there is one on the rear of the receiver before the stock hinge.

[yellowfin]

Hmm...so if I take it to the range on the weekend it would be a Carmel Sunday...