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Thread: Good, modern replacements for R60/P60 heads?

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    Good, modern replacements for R60/P60 heads?

    I have a lot of lights ranging from pre Surefire direct M9 Mount, 15 year old Surefire, ten year old nitrolon, etc.

    I have also been replacing batteries with rechargeable.

    As often as not, these kill the incandescent bulb.

    When I order new LED heads, to replace the R or P60 Surefire size,
    I keep keeping “direct replacement” or exact fit items like this:

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    Which are too long.

    Is there an easy button for ordering these and getting the size I need?
    “Where weapons may not be carried, it is well to carry weapons.”

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    This is the standard:

    https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.co...estseller&fp=5

    Everything else is “as good as” at your own risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    This is the standard:

    https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.co...estseller&fp=5

    Everything else is “as good as” at your own risk.
    ^^^^This. I replaced all the heads on my 6Ps with Malkoff heads and they are top notch. Register your email with them and they will send you a first time buyer coupon.
    Last edited by flenna; 04-13-19 at 20:18.
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    I own many Malkoff M61, M60, and M91 modules, and highly recommend them.

    Will it be going into an aluminum body or a Nitrolon one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grizzman View Post
    I own many Malkoff M61, M60, and M91 modules, and highly recommend them.

    Will it be going into an aluminum body or a Nitrolon one?
    Both.

    I am upgrading both my M9 Laser Technolgies direct mounts, (like you see in the bottom middle), the later after they became Surefire TG Mount versions like you see in one of the top row guns,




    hand held combat lights,

    Like this era-



    And G2, nitrolon line lights I start getting back around 2006.
    Like these



    These nitrolon are like $50 lights. Not sure if I want to spend forty plus bucks each replacing the lamp in ten or so of them.

    It basically seems despite what they are advertised for, nitecore and some of these lithium rechargeable batteries are just too strong for the older incandescent.
    “Where weapons may not be carried, it is well to carry weapons.”

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    Running a full powered LED module in a completely Nitrolon bodied light doesn't allow anywhere for the heat generated to go. It's recommended to use an M61L (or LL if it generates enough output for the task). If it's got an aluminum head, then the full powered M61 can be used, since the head will transfer the heat to the air.

    The problem with your incan lamps is that two Li-Ion cells in series are delivering 8.4 volts (without considering sag) to a lamp that's designed to operate from 6.4 volts (without sag). You can run one Li-Ion with them, but then you're under driving the filament, which while not catastrophic to it, isn't ideal. If you want to run two Li-Ion cells with an incan lamp, you should use a P90 or P91 lamp.

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    Another recommendation for Malkoff. Gene is the man when it comes to LED's.

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    I have 7 Malkoff devices. Haven't had any fail yet.

    Have found a way to destroy or burn out or break around a dozen SF heads over the years.

    Same usage, usually mounted on ARs using VTAC mount(which is okay at best). I generally don't run rechargeable batts.

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    It’s not that I want to run incans.
    It’s that I want to switch over to rechargeable batteries.

    I went to nitrolon and VTAC mounts about a dozen years ago because-
    At work I was not paying for them and I wanted my home guns the same

    If I jacked one up I just got another one

    In real left they are a huge weight and size saver over the issue Surefire, even if you dropped the center body and ran one battery instead of two.

    So, right now I don’t understand why the direct replacement led heads are so much longer than originals.
    “Where weapons may not be carried, it is well to carry weapons.”

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    I replaced the incandescent assembly in my 6z with a Malkoff from Brownell’s years ago.
    https://www.brownells.com/emergency-...prod42056.aspx
    Vastly longer run time on CR123 batteries and much brighter. The only drawback was during requal, if I fired it up shooting with the mere mortals no one else on the line needed to use their WML at 15 or 25 yards.

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