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Originally Posted by Coal Dragger
I know you are intentionally being flippant but this building has a lot of historical value. 14-18 million people visit it every year. Yes the church is it's members, but ancient works of art like this are a tragedy when they are lost.
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May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one
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Yeah does not look accidental. If those had been mosques the politicians would be calling for all out police efforts and condemning anyone not fawning over Muslims. Will the West ever recognize Islam is at war with it? Or just die a whimpering strangulation?
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! ... Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry in an address at St. John’s Church, Richmond, Virginia, on March 23, 1775.
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Extremely sad. I’m feel fortunate I visited it, I’m saddened by what will be left for my son to see.
It’s pretty astonishing that it stood for 750ish years through wars, revolution, and different eras of humanity. Yet here at our peak of fire fighting ability, response and job place scrutiny and safety it happens now. That’s just off to me.
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Terrible. I'm glad I was able to see it twice in my lifetime.
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I would not want to be those renovation contractors insurance company!
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12 Churches in a row just vandalized all across France, with Saint-Sulpice also in Paris being set on fire just a few weeks ago, and now right at the beginning of Holy Week, Notre Dame Cathedral is burning to the ground? Well, let's see what the investigators find.
"Do you need to be told that even such modest attainments as you boast of in the way of polite society will hardly survive the Faith to which they owe their significance?"
T.S. Eliot, Choruses from the Rock
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I hope they will rebuild to exact ?
or maybe they won't for social justice reasons ? who knows
but so many buildings that are very old have been rebuilt just many do not realize that and while its not the same the visual symbol will be there again
no way did this just happen by accident ? with that level of a building their would have been way to many checks in place I would be willing to bet %100 was arson since they keep trying and do destroy all religious places they can all over the world
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I understand the historical loss and architectural appreciation for this building, but I myself cannot find any reason to care. Perhaps France is simply reaping what it has sown, and Catholicism as well for that matter? It is absolutely no kind of symbol whatsoever to me.
To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society. --Theodore Roosevelt--
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I feel the same way.
Clearly they need room for another mosque, so burning down that church to make room is an obvious solution. Such is the state of Europe now, this is just a symptom of the decay.
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It is interesting that major news outlets just jumped right on the construction accident theme not even mentioning the rash of church arsons in France. I’m guessing the outcome of the official investigation has already been decided. I did read in one article that the fire started near the end of tourist visiting hours. That fact alone would make me take a second look. You must wonder. David
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