So would an Ithaca 37 count? They are based on a pre WW1 design by that same JMB fellow even though they were not produced by Ithaca until, well, 1937.
Maybe I'm just partial to "that" fellows designs.
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So would an Ithaca 37 count? They are based on a pre WW1 design by that same JMB fellow even though they were not produced by Ithaca until, well, 1937.
Maybe I'm just partial to "that" fellows designs.
Go Ukraine! Piss on the Russian dead.
Yes,the Ithaca counts, in my mind. It descends from the Remington Model 17, which had some JMB patents in it.
Agreed, few people would buy a Winchester Model 11.... now or then. Production ceased in I think 1926. The cocking action is a turnoff even without knowledge of the widowmaker myth. There are a few other idiosyncrasies in its operation that need to be got-used-to and takedown is pretty inconvenient. The front sight though is unique and superior. A cylinder on top of a thin blade, same sight picture as a bead but it's up off the barrel, making it quick to pick up and giving more options in adjusting your shot immediately to go a little higher or a little lower.
Made me think of a USOG video. Search his channel name along with shotguns named in this thread and odds are he has a video on it.
I’ve set up a HUGE pile of 97s for CAS. The ejector spring is the only weak point if I convert the left extractor to a coil spring. Properly maintained, I fun them faster than semi auto and they’re much easier to combat load because of the bigger ejection port. Only a fool would shoot a 97 stock for CAS or defense. Lol they just need som quality polish work and some mechanical type ‘updates’ and they’re good to go. I have like 5 of them. Lol.. newer guns are more cost effective but you can’t beat that old school craftsmanship.
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The Winchester Model 12 is my all-time favorite shotgun, it is what I grew up shooting. The first time I shot a 12ga pump with a disconnector (Mossberg 500) I thought it was broken because it would not slam fire. LOL
Gettin' down innagrass.
Let's Go Brandon!
They are broken if the have a disconnector…it makes them stupid slow to shoot. Lol.
I understand you're talking about milled classics but I do like a Mossberg 590. No lifter in the way of loading.
Only shotgun I have besides a double 28 ga.
Had a nice 97 I used for a while shooting CAS. Played with pretty hard and it never fumbled. Sold it in a cash driven purge moons ago. Only older shotgun I have left is a 1930's Stevens 620. Very nice, but you're right about the '97 being a very fast and easy gun to fill back up. Lifter on the Stevens can be a PITA. I do think the 520/620 takedown design is slick. Much better than the 97 and Model 12 in that regard.
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