Secrecy, Self-Dealing, and Greed at the N.R.A.

[jsbhike]

No, nobody did. Nor did I say anybody did.

Well, not sure who you were talking about then.

Because then or now, too many gun owners think NRA can wave a magic wand and make all gun control go away.

[Renegade]

Well, not sure who you were talking about then.

Well you must have missed it. Here it is again, "too many gun owners..."

[jsbhike]

Doc (and others) - I wonder if this was why Pete Brownell resigned so quickly?

Perhaps like Russ Howard 20 years ago?

https://rense.com/politics6/nra.htm

[jsbhike]

Well you must have missed it. Here it is again, "too many gun owners..."

That sounds more like NRA PR, officially and from some of there more zealous members. At least up until the next failure happens and those engaging in the behavior shift blame away from NRA to anywhere they can.

[SteyrAUG]

Ok, so we should be doing WHAT instead of being in the NRA?

What is the better plan? This is directed to ANYONE?

Hell I'll even accept why NOT being in the NRA is more effective than being in the NRA.

This is a lot of the same "I don't like Republicans because I didn't agree with the primaries" shit.

[jsbhike]

Ok, so we should be doing WHAT instead of being in the NRA?

What is the better plan? This is directed to ANYONE?

Hell I'll even accept why NOT being in the NRA is more effective than being in the NRA.

This is a lot of the same "I don't like Republicans because I didn't agree with the primaries" shit.

I suppose it could be worth changing NRA from what it always has been to something it never wanted to be.

Good analogy with the republicans. Lock step support of anything guarantees no deviation from the path they are on since it reinforces their behavior.

[Diamondback]

If you don't have a membership you don't have a vote--that's the other reason I took out a Life Membership, to vote for change and unseat Wanker Wayne's cronies on the BOD.

Are you a VOTING Member? If not, WHY not? Basically, what we need is a massive infusion of new VM's to "buy out" the NRA and systematically purge LaPierre's minions whenever they come up for election. Once we install new blood as a majority of the BOD, we can start cleaning house.

[HKGuns]

Ok man, you win.

The NRA sucks. Hey that fixed everything. We have our rights back...oh wait.

Seriously, if you have a better plan, please clue us in. Cause right now the NRA is the only thing doing anything at all. That means as much as the NRA is ineffective, everyone else (except for possibly the Cato Institute) is doing even less.

I like the GOA, I like JPFO, I like a lot of other groups. Problem is Congress never even heard of them. And if everyone in the NRA switched to the GOA it wouldn't change much, it would take Congress another 10 years to realize they are a thing, and by then the GOA would be just another mostly ineffectual lobby.

So if you have a better plan than "The NRA Sucks" then let's have it. Because the NRA can suck with or without you.

^^Truth^^

[jsbhike]

If you don't have a membership you don't have a vote--that's the other reason I took out a Life Membership, to vote for change and unseat Wanker Wayne's cronies on the BOD.

Are you a VOTING Member? If not, WHY not? Basically, what we need is a massive infusion of new VM's to "buy out" the NRA and systematically purge LaPierre's minions whenever they come up for election. Once we install new blood as a majority of the BOD, we can start cleaning house.

Been hearing that same thing since the mid to late 1990's and the membership numbers have increased, but no change in how things operate.

[Diamondback]

Been hearing that same thing since the mid to late 1990's and the membership numbers have increased, but no change in how things operate.

The other problem is lack of coordination among us who seek to Dethrone the King--we need to all settle on one slate of BOD nominees, or maybe just Blacklist anybody who the BOD recommends.

ETA: Not every member is a VOTING member, remember? IIRC voting is limited to either paid-in-full Life or five consecutive unbroken years of annual--and I've known guys who because of having their payments mislaid at NRA HQ were told "too bad, no vot for you this year, sucks to be you, try again in 5." For these purposes, only VOTING members count...