My next AR15 is going to be a basic but high quality carbine. Colt was first on my list until I read the thread about Colt outsourcing and seen people like Chris Bartocci slam Colt.
Are they still a baseline reference of a well made mil spec AR?
My next AR15 is going to be a basic but high quality carbine. Colt was first on my list until I read the thread about Colt outsourcing and seen people like Chris Bartocci slam Colt.
Are they still a baseline reference of a well made mil spec AR?
Yes.
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I bought a 6920 in 2016,put a colt 14.5” m4 barrel (pinned and welded),geissele ssa trigger and a ta31 h-g.it has about 3,500-4,000 ish rounds with nary a hiccup.i am very happy with its performance.
The build specs are pretty easy to find,I would compare with others in the price range(if they are even disclosed!!).to me the choice was an easy one.
I feel mine was an excellent value and have not experienced buyers remorse in the three years I have owned it.
Ymmv.
Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President... - Theodore Roosevelt, Lincoln and Free Speech, Metropolitan Magazine, Volume 47, Number 6, May 1918.
Every Communist must grasp the truth. Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party Mao Zedong, 6 November, 1938 - speech to the Communist Patry of China's sixth Central Committee
Regarding Bartocci, he clearly has a lot of affection and nostalgia for the Colt of old. So he seems legitimately dismayed over Colt's outsourcing and some of their other tone-deaf business decisions, but when asked straight up if the outsourcing is negatively affecting the quality of Colt rifles his answer was a relatively fair (in my opinion) "We don't know yet".
I'll still buy Colt stuff until there's some indication I shouldn't.
I have mixed feelings about Bartocci. I think he has a legitimate concern UP TO A POINT. Beyond that point I think he's clinging to the past a little too much and may also have a small cup of sour grapes over his career ending with Colt. It's like every former employee comparing himself to his replacement saying, "Things were different when I was there (and it was done right)." You have to separate the truth from the nostalgia and that's the difficult part.
Only after a few years and hundreds of thousands of rounds fired will we know if Colt's quality has really taken a dive or if their changes are just trimming some of the fat and becoming more efficient.
We literally will not know the answer during the entire course of this thread.
Last edited by Doc Safari; 04-23-19 at 09:29.
I never said it had the best trigger in its price range.
I got that, but with what you paid plus cash out for the trigger, you are in this territory:
LaRue Ultimate AR-15 Upper Kit (assembled @ $792.00; unassembled @ $693.00) https://www.larue.com/products/larue...-15-upper-kit/
add this:
LaRue Billet Lower (@ $199.99) https://www.larue.com/products/larue-billet-lowers/
And since all you would have to do is assemble the lower to have a complete rifle at $991.99 or, if you are even handier, @ $892.99.
Pretty sure it will #1 - be more accurate than the Colt; #2 - since it has the MBT, it won't need another trigger.
Maybe apples to oranges, but that is the way I'd go before I bought a 6920 and put $240.00 trigger in it.
Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President... - Theodore Roosevelt, Lincoln and Free Speech, Metropolitan Magazine, Volume 47, Number 6, May 1918.
Every Communist must grasp the truth. Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party Mao Zedong, 6 November, 1938 - speech to the Communist Patry of China's sixth Central Committee
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